WEBVTT 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/668-0 00:11:38.268 --> 00:11:39.828 Well, I want to thank everyone. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/674-0 00:11:41.908 --> 00:11:43.268 For jumping in and attending this. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/693-0 00:11:46.588 --> 00:11:51.572 Meeting. It's. Yeah. Next the the second meeting of the stake 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/693-1 00:11:51.572 --> 00:11:54.948 for I'll call it stakeholders meeting for. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/700-0 00:11:56.468 --> 00:11:58.948 The battery for up updating means. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/705-0 00:11:59.298 --> 00:12:02.738 Battery stewardship program. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/707-0 00:12:05.508 --> 00:12:06.588 We. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/712-0 00:12:10.388 --> 00:12:11.788 'Ve taken some of the. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/736-0 00:12:14.288 --> 00:12:19.312 Take some of the comments that we've or some of the discussion points that we 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/736-1 00:12:19.312 --> 00:12:24.208 heard during the first meeting and some of the comments that were received. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/756-0 00:12:26.908 --> 00:12:35.068 By via e-mail and we've tried to come up with what we consider a big picture straw 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/756-1 00:12:35.068 --> 00:12:37.428 man conceptual idea for. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/768-0 00:12:41.698 --> 00:12:45.738 For the direction for going from the the update to the program. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/797-0 00:12:47.108 --> 00:12:52.956 We've mailed that out yesterday to everyone that we believe was on the list 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/797-1 00:12:52.956 --> 00:12:58.726 and I guess so this would be the this meeting we're looking to see for any 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/797-2 00:12:58.726 --> 00:12:59.188 input. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/806-0 00:13:01.068 --> 00:13:03.748 On on really things they heard in the first meeting. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/810-0 00:13:06.868 --> 00:13:09.228 Any other input? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/827-0 00:13:10.338 --> 00:13:16.383 On what may have what we put out last week not last week, yesterday, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/827-1 00:13:16.383 --> 00:13:20.938 sorry or any kind of additional thoughts regarding. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/832-0 00:13:23.468 --> 00:13:25.268 Updating the battery program. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/839-0 00:13:26.828 --> 00:13:31.228 These the plan that we put out. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/844-0 00:13:32.988 --> 00:13:33.388 Was a little. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/850-0 00:13:33.788 --> 00:13:37.068 Was a little basic in terms of things such as. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/855-0 00:13:38.788 --> 00:13:39.668 The covered products. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/858-0 00:13:40.538 --> 00:13:41.618 A little. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/863-0 00:13:41.618 --> 00:13:43.338 A little more specifics regarding. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/874-0 00:13:47.178 --> 00:13:51.978 Drop the reporting requirements for the PR OS and. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/880-0 00:13:56.508 --> 00:13:59.668 Conveniences for for pick ups and stuff. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/917-0 00:14:02.228 --> 00:14:06.780 I guess I don't feel the need for everybody to go around and introduce 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/917-1 00:14:06.780 --> 00:14:10.948 themselves, but if you do, if you we do ask that if someone says 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/917-2 00:14:10.948 --> 00:14:15.628 speaks to please state your name and and the organization you represent. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/927-0 00:14:17.908 --> 00:14:23.748 And and we are recording this as well. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/943-0 00:14:24.578 --> 00:14:28.645 We'll have the recording and transcript available couple of days after the 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/943-1 00:14:28.645 --> 00:14:29.458 meeting itself. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/945-0 00:14:30.988 --> 00:14:31.068 So. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/956-0 00:14:33.348 --> 00:14:35.988 I'll start that off by saying does anyone have any? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/964-0 00:14:36.708 --> 00:14:41.548 Any comments they'd like to start us off with? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/976-0 00:14:56.918 --> 00:14:59.038 Oh, got wonderfully world of the Internet. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/980-0 00:14:59.558 --> 00:15:00.718 That would be Ashley. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/982-0 00:15:00.798 --> 00:15:02.998 Ashley, you have a four. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/985-0 00:15:02.468 --> 00:15:04.148 Oh, hi. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/988-0 00:15:04.148 --> 00:15:05.028 Yes, apologies. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/995-0 00:15:05.028 --> 00:15:07.908 Were you asking for virtual folks or folks from the room first? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1002-0 00:15:10.948 --> 00:15:11.868 It doesn't matter. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1004-0 00:15:12.268 --> 00:15:14.308 We'll we'll lay it open to the floor. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1008-0 00:15:15.148 --> 00:15:15.988 Awesome. OK. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1011-0 00:15:15.988 --> 00:15:16.788 Well, I'll. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1021-0 00:15:16.028 --> 00:15:20.157 There's only just, so let people know how many is totally in 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1021-1 00:15:20.157 --> 00:15:21.308 virtual world 27. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1024-0 00:15:21.308 --> 00:15:23.428 We have 27 in the virtual world. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1026-0 00:15:25.028 --> 00:15:25.148 And. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1037-0 00:15:26.668 --> 00:15:29.194 About six of us, six of us here in the real world, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1037-1 00:15:29.194 --> 00:15:29.788 so to speak. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1051-0 00:15:29.948 --> 00:15:33.868 So it's a pretty small number. So we'll just kind of leave it open as 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1051-1 00:15:33.868 --> 00:15:35.548 people wish to to participate. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1055-0 00:15:37.018 --> 00:15:37.338 OK. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1067-0 00:15:37.338 --> 00:15:41.057 Well, I'm happy to take a pause. If anybody sitting at the table in person 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1067-1 00:15:41.057 --> 00:15:42.098 wants to speak first. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1070-0 00:15:43.588 --> 00:15:44.708 Now go for it, Ashley. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1074-0 00:15:45.268 --> 00:15:45.908 OK, great. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1083-0 00:15:45.908 --> 00:15:48.868 Well, thank you again for hosting this meeting. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1102-0 00:15:48.948 --> 00:15:53.490 I am representing Redwood materials and I believe my colleague Tricia is on the 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1102-1 00:15:53.490 --> 00:15:54.228 call as well. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1117-0 00:15:54.228 --> 00:15:59.262 She's also with Redwood materials. And thank you for sending over the draft 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1117-1 00:15:59.262 --> 00:16:02.508 recommendations. Our team reviewed it yesterday. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1135-0 00:16:03.148 --> 00:16:06.758 I have a couple questions and I'll sprinkle them throughout the call. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1135-1 00:16:06.758 --> 00:16:09.028 So I don't steal the mic for too long here. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1146-0 00:16:09.068 --> 00:16:14.388 But my first question and biggest reaction to the recommendations thus far. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1178-0 00:16:15.418 --> 00:16:19.081 Is that we had a pretty robust conversation around independent battery 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1178-1 00:16:19.081 --> 00:16:23.054 collection during our last meeting, but I unfortunately did not see anything 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1178-2 00:16:23.054 --> 00:16:26.098 concerning that in the recommendations that were sent out. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1189-0 00:16:26.818 --> 00:16:29.901 I was wondering if we could have a little bit more of a conversation around that 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1189-1 00:16:29.901 --> 00:16:30.738 and thoughts about it. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1191-0 00:16:33.828 --> 00:16:34.708 Yeah, we could. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1203-0 00:16:38.118 --> 00:16:40.838 So if you wanna. Yeah, I mean we've any. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1207-0 00:16:40.838 --> 00:16:42.878 What are your thoughts on on that? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1264-0 00:16:45.558 --> 00:16:47.841 Yeah. So my thoughts on that is that 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1264-1 00:16:47.841 --> 00:16:52.777 independent battery collection should be allowed, like I said in our last call, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1264-2 00:16:52.777 --> 00:16:57.034 Redwood Materials were not only a recycler of batteries were battery 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1264-3 00:16:57.034 --> 00:17:00.551 recycler world. So a collector of batteries and we offer 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1264-4 00:17:00.551 --> 00:17:04.068 free battery collection for programs across the country. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1278-0 00:17:04.078 --> 00:17:07.684 For the public, which includes events and then we have a 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1278-1 00:17:07.684 --> 00:17:10.278 bin that we collect batteries in as well. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1287-0 00:17:11.428 --> 00:17:14.468 A lot of these programs to date will allow. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1327-0 00:17:14.858 --> 00:17:18.988 One dependent collection and they have a specific provision about independent 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1327-1 00:17:18.988 --> 00:17:22.801 collection in the EPR program, but they'll often say that the batteries 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1327-2 00:17:22.801 --> 00:17:25.978 have to be forfeited to a battery stewardship organization. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1365-0 00:17:26.658 --> 00:17:30.733 So I'm really just looking for some clarity and and thoughts on how you all 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1365-1 00:17:30.733 --> 00:17:34.755 are feeling because we would prefer obviously to not forfeit the batteries 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1365-2 00:17:34.755 --> 00:17:39.098 that we're collecting on our own dime and we are more than happy to provide any. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1383-0 00:17:39.868 --> 00:17:42.439 Data to the state that's needed on the batteries that we collect, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1383-1 00:17:42.439 --> 00:17:44.348 register with the state as we normally would do. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1398-0 00:17:45.578 --> 00:17:50.338 Or any other standards that we need to meet, but that's where we're coming from. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1401-0 00:17:51.008 --> 00:17:51.648 All right. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1405-0 00:17:51.648 --> 00:17:52.328 How would you? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1409-0 00:17:52.328 --> 00:17:52.928 I guess so. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1412-0 00:17:52.928 --> 00:17:54.888 How would you see your interaction with? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1419-0 00:17:56.788 --> 00:17:59.828 The the pros that are operating. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1426-0 00:18:02.898 --> 00:18:05.658 Ourselves as a compliment to the pros. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1472-0 00:18:06.988 --> 00:18:10.018 And we're just aiding and increased battery collection. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1472-1 00:18:10.018 --> 00:18:14.347 So as long as the PRO's in the state is getting data and they have transparency 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1472-2 00:18:14.347 --> 00:18:17.755 on where those batteries are going and how many are collected, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1472-3 00:18:17.755 --> 00:18:20.028 we really see it as a a win win situation. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1484-0 00:18:30.428 --> 00:18:34.348 Ashley, is there anyone who would like to follow 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1484-1 00:18:34.348 --> 00:18:34.588 up? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1486-0 00:18:36.068 --> 00:18:37.508 Yes, sure. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1504-0 00:18:37.668 --> 00:18:43.948 Have a question from the room when she? When, Ashley. When you mentioned Ben's. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1512-0 00:18:43.948 --> 00:18:46.268 Like, we represent a lot of transfer stations. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1520-0 00:18:46.268 --> 00:18:49.628 When you mentioned bins, what's a collection bin like? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1521-0 00:18:49.708 --> 00:18:51.908 Oh, I'm sorry. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1529-0 00:18:51.908 --> 00:18:52.058 Oh, I'm sorry. My name's Michael Carroll. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1536-0 00:18:52.058 --> 00:18:55.188 I'm the executive director for municipal Waste hub. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1545-0 00:18:55.188 --> 00:18:58.308 We represent 115 communities for the municipal solid waste. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1548-0 00:19:00.798 --> 00:19:01.798 Nice to meet you, Michael. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1564-0 00:19:03.268 --> 00:19:05.129 Well, actually we're we're lucky for this call 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1564-1 00:19:05.129 --> 00:19:07.148 because I do have my colleague Trisha on the line. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1587-0 00:19:07.148 --> 00:19:11.008 Who is the expert in our consumer battery collection program so she can explain a 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1587-1 00:19:11.008 --> 00:19:14.068 little bit more detail about our bins and how our process works? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1591-0 00:19:17.918 --> 00:19:18.838 I guess that's my cue. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1598-0 00:19:21.388 --> 00:19:23.028 Yes, good morning. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1602-0 00:19:23.028 --> 00:19:23.908 Yes, from my side. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1635-0 00:19:23.908 --> 00:19:26.840 I'm out in Nevada, so perhaps it's good afternoon for you 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1635-1 00:19:26.840 --> 00:19:29.065 guys, but we do have a variety of different 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1635-2 00:19:29.065 --> 00:19:33.008 collection bins that we use as we're evolving to make sure that each one is a 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1635-3 00:19:33.008 --> 00:19:34.828 safer and safer version. So we have. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1640-0 00:19:36.508 --> 00:19:36.548 A. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1672-0 00:19:36.548 --> 00:19:40.344 Currently, a metal bin that houses an A vaccine box 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1672-1 00:19:40.344 --> 00:19:46.258 that has a fire retardant spray inside that allows a collection of up to roughly 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1672-2 00:19:46.258 --> 00:19:46.988 50 lbs of. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1686-0 00:19:47.338 --> 00:19:51.098 Mixed material before it's shipped out via UPS straight to our facility. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1696-0 00:19:51.138 --> 00:19:55.778 So that means that no collection sites accumulates too much at anyone time. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1713-0 00:19:56.258 --> 00:20:01.458 We are introducing as a pilot program in Nevada, our next generation, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1713-1 00:20:01.458 --> 00:20:03.018 which is a smart bin. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1729-0 00:20:03.018 --> 00:20:07.416 It's actually Wi-Fi enabled where we're able to track it with sensors on how full 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1729-1 00:20:07.416 --> 00:20:07.738 it is. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1730-0 00:20:08.738 --> 00:20:09.898 Temperature readings. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1739-0 00:20:10.218 --> 00:20:12.778 There's kind of an automatic shut off so people can't add stuff. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1757-0 00:20:12.778 --> 00:20:15.812 But again, it's gonna have a special permit for a 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1757-1 00:20:15.812 --> 00:20:19.818 larger volume of mixed material without sorting and other things. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1771-0 00:20:19.888 --> 00:20:22.755 So again, trying to increase the convenience for 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1771-1 00:20:22.755 --> 00:20:26.208 the consumers to drop off will also increasing the safety. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1775-0 00:20:27.658 --> 00:20:28.098 Layers to it. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1777-0 00:20:32.458 --> 00:20:33.258 Thank you. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1794-0 00:20:37.898 --> 00:20:41.098 And quickly, just to under score once more, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1794-1 00:20:41.098 --> 00:20:45.898 independent collectors are not battery stewardship organizations. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1798-0 00:20:45.938 --> 00:20:46.338 I don't. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1802-0 00:20:46.338 --> 00:20:47.778 That is a follow-up question. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1820-0 00:20:47.778 --> 00:20:52.458 I'd love to ask later to understand if you're looking for battery stewardship 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1820-1 00:20:52.458 --> 00:20:55.458 organizations to be limited to nonprofits or not. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1837-0 00:20:55.898 --> 00:20:58.789 So I can put a pin in that question for now, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1837-1 00:20:58.789 --> 00:21:02.258 but independent collectors are really just recyclers. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1848-0 00:21:03.138 --> 00:21:06.458 And and folks that work with recyclers that are already doing this work. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1855-0 00:21:07.088 --> 00:21:09.008 Looking to continue to do this work. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1878-0 00:21:10.538 --> 00:21:15.386 And you know all in the same the same benefit of Ed Golds that the BSO's and 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1878-1 00:21:15.386 --> 00:21:17.778 the state have to increase collection. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1885-0 00:21:17.778 --> 00:21:22.298 So it's really just an add to increase collection, it's not. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1896-0 00:21:23.898 --> 00:21:25.578 A whole program similar to a BSO. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1898-0 00:21:25.578 --> 00:21:27.338 We're just a a complementary piece. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1905-0 00:21:39.258 --> 00:21:41.738 All right. Robert, do you have something to add? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1916-0 00:21:42.978 --> 00:21:46.898 Hi, Ashley, this is Robert from DEP. Department of sustainability. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1938-0 00:21:47.138 --> 00:21:51.212 I just want to be clear, you are not against reporting your data 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1938-1 00:21:51.212 --> 00:21:55.098 to the State Department of Environmental Protection, correct? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1944-0 00:21:57.118 --> 00:21:58.438 Not at all. We'd love to. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1956-0 00:21:58.438 --> 00:22:01.238 We wanna make sure all the collection golds are being met. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1953-0 00:21:59.578 --> 00:21:59.898 OK. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1955-0 00:22:01.958 --> 00:22:02.278 All right. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1957-0 00:22:02.278 --> 00:22:02.998 Thank you. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1959-0 00:22:06.148 --> 00:22:06.628 Jennifer. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1961-0 00:22:17.908 --> 00:22:18.188 OK. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1968-0 00:22:21.998 --> 00:22:23.158 Sorry about that. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1977-0 00:22:23.958 --> 00:22:27.824 This is Jennifer Dapolonio from Maine Department Hazardous Waste management 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1977-1 00:22:27.824 --> 00:22:28.078 unit. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1997-0 00:22:29.498 --> 00:22:33.455 Speaking of collections, this may be something that we have to 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1997-1 00:22:33.455 --> 00:22:37.098 discuss internally and also with the sustainability unit. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2029-0 00:22:39.058 --> 00:22:44.651 But we in the hazardous waste management unit have a requirement that if any 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2029-1 00:22:44.651 --> 00:22:50.172 universal waste, including batteries, are going to be sent out of state for 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2029-2 00:22:50.172 --> 00:22:50.898 recycling. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2058-0 00:22:51.248 --> 00:22:56.162 And they're not on a hazardous waste manifest or a main U ball. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2058-1 00:22:56.162 --> 00:23:01.997 The company needs to submit quarterly reports under the alternate standards 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2058-2 00:23:01.997 --> 00:23:02.688 approval. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2066-0 00:23:04.298 --> 00:23:06.738 And they need to apply for that approval first. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2080-0 00:23:08.228 --> 00:23:12.668 So I I don't know how exactly that's going to dovetail with EPR. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2097-0 00:23:14.058 --> 00:23:16.654 And it. But it also sounds like we need to have a 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2097-1 00:23:16.654 --> 00:23:19.978 conversation with Redwood after the after this meeting as well. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2135-0 00:23:24.078 --> 00:23:28.522 So that's all I have for now, but I think we're going to have to have 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2135-1 00:23:28.522 --> 00:23:33.284 some conversations about alternate standards if out-of-state companies are 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2135-2 00:23:33.284 --> 00:23:38.110 going to be taking in batteries for recycling on any paperwork other than a 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2135-3 00:23:38.110 --> 00:23:40.078 hazardous waste manifesto ball. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2144-0 00:23:42.768 --> 00:23:45.888 I'll drop my e-mail in the chat. Jennifer. So you have it. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2178-0 00:23:45.888 --> 00:23:48.596 We would love to connect, but again to the point, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2178-1 00:23:48.596 --> 00:23:52.984 like where recyclers that already doing this work and we we register with States 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2178-2 00:23:52.984 --> 00:23:56.288 and make sure we're abiding by all the the appropriate laws. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2190-0 00:23:56.288 --> 00:24:02.614 But it's definitely interesting throwing an EPR and having these worlds work in 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2190-1 00:24:02.614 --> 00:24:03.168 tandem. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2197-0 00:24:03.168 --> 00:24:05.488 So yeah, looking forward to contacting you. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2196-0 00:24:04.158 --> 00:24:04.438 OK. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2201-0 00:24:05.518 --> 00:24:06.518 Yeah, it sounds. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2207-0 00:24:06.518 --> 00:24:09.598 It sounds like you and I have to have a separate conversation. Thank you. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2209-0 00:24:12.458 --> 00:24:13.578 OK, mark. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2245-0 00:24:14.598 --> 00:24:19.100 Yeah. Hi, mark. Bullish from Prba, the Rechargeable Battery Association, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2245-1 00:24:19.100 --> 00:24:23.910 I I note in the straw man that and it doesn't say in there that the there can 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2245-2 00:24:23.910 --> 00:24:24.958 be multiple bsos. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2261-0 00:24:24.958 --> 00:24:29.536 So that's that's a good thing. The not-for-profit question is a good one 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2261-1 00:24:29.536 --> 00:24:30.038 as well. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2275-0 00:24:30.358 --> 00:24:34.096 You know, prba is neutral on that. The model build that we have actually 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2275-1 00:24:34.096 --> 00:24:35.478 doesn't say anything on it. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2283-0 00:24:35.838 --> 00:24:40.478 PR OS can be not-for-profit or for profit. In in our model. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2289-0 00:24:41.738 --> 00:24:43.418 The requirement though. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2291-0 00:24:43.418 --> 00:24:45.178 You know about the batteries being reported. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2335-0 00:24:45.568 --> 00:24:50.459 Is is only part of the solution, so if anybody can collect batteries and 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2335-1 00:24:50.459 --> 00:24:54.613 then not have state oversight beyond just the reporting part, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2335-2 00:24:54.613 --> 00:25:00.107 that becomes problematic because how does the state know that those batteries are 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2335-3 00:25:00.107 --> 00:25:01.648 being managed properly? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2369-0 00:25:02.168 --> 00:25:06.630 So it's an important distinction to make, and that's that's part of the reason why 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2369-1 00:25:06.630 --> 00:25:10.716 there are so many requirements in Bill language that require that a battery 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2369-2 00:25:10.716 --> 00:25:14.532 stewardship organization be approved by the state. And then of course, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2369-3 00:25:14.532 --> 00:25:17.328 have the oversight by the state complete oversight. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2371-0 00:25:26.498 --> 00:25:26.898 OK. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2376-0 00:25:26.898 --> 00:25:27.858 Thank you, mark. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2393-0 00:25:27.858 --> 00:25:34.514 So, so Mark, so I guess though, how would you see just to be kind of 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2393-1 00:25:34.514 --> 00:25:37.698 broad, how would you see Redwood? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2400-0 00:25:39.178 --> 00:25:41.418 A system like redwoods talking about. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2403-0 00:25:42.848 --> 00:25:44.048 Interact with. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2406-0 00:25:45.578 --> 00:25:45.698 ABS. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2408-0 00:25:45.698 --> 00:25:47.458 You know BSO? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2431-0 00:25:50.358 --> 00:25:52.978 Well, much like much like all recyclers do 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2431-1 00:25:52.978 --> 00:25:55.475 today, they enter into agreements with a 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2431-2 00:25:55.475 --> 00:25:58.278 stewardship organization to manage batteries. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2428-0 00:25:57.208 --> 00:25:57.688 Good evening. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2441-0 00:25:58.278 --> 00:26:01.598 And that agreement could include more than just the processing. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2441-1 00:26:01.598 --> 00:26:03.518 It could include the collection, too. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2443-0 00:26:03.928 --> 00:26:05.168 Right. So. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2455-0 00:26:20.998 --> 00:26:24.678 Hey anyone from Verkle or in the room? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2461-0 00:26:24.718 --> 00:26:26.038 Yeah. So West. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2465-0 00:26:26.038 --> 00:26:29.638 Arnold, I'm with Terracycle North Coast services. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2474-0 00:26:31.058 --> 00:26:33.418 We currently report all the quantities. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2482-0 00:26:35.418 --> 00:26:37.578 Batteries, universal waste and whatnot as it is. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2488-0 00:26:39.098 --> 00:26:40.378 So the reporting side of things. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2495-0 00:26:41.978 --> 00:26:43.778 Wouldn't be an issue at all with our process. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2507-0 00:26:43.778 --> 00:26:46.492 I mean, we're at majority of these collection 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2507-1 00:26:46.492 --> 00:26:49.738 sites as it is currently and to collect the batteries. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2514-0 00:26:51.168 --> 00:26:53.848 Just be one other thing we'd take while we're there. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2535-0 00:26:55.328 --> 00:26:59.100 And again, that the numbers reported by chemistry, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2535-1 00:26:59.100 --> 00:27:04.648 whether it's, you know algon, lithium ion, Nicad, nickel, metal lead acid. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2544-0 00:27:06.338 --> 00:27:09.138 We provide that information on the certificate of recycle. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2548-0 00:27:12.538 --> 00:27:13.818 Ashley, do your response. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2552-0 00:27:16.528 --> 00:27:17.328 Right, yeah. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2560-0 00:27:17.368 --> 00:27:20.674 And Trisha, please fill in if we need to fill in 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2560-1 00:27:20.674 --> 00:27:21.888 anywhere else but. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2597-0 00:27:23.578 --> 00:27:28.344 I would like clear understanding on because we were more than happy to work 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2597-1 00:27:28.344 --> 00:27:31.604 with the BSO, but we also we do our own independent 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2597-2 00:27:31.604 --> 00:27:36.496 collection where we have our own branding. We do our own education. You know, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2586-0 00:27:33.308 --> 00:27:33.428 Hmm. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2597-3 00:27:36.496 --> 00:27:40.258 in in the states where we do collection, we're already Reg. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2616-0 00:27:40.258 --> 00:27:43.994 With the state and going through the proper protocols in those states that 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2616-1 00:27:43.994 --> 00:27:45.738 don't have an EPR program in place. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2625-0 00:27:45.968 --> 00:27:48.448 It's like these are practices that are already happening. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2629-0 00:27:50.898 --> 00:27:53.338 Apologies, that's one moment. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2636-0 00:27:59.298 --> 00:28:00.138 Yeah, I can. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2648-0 00:28:00.298 --> 00:28:04.143 I can feel a little bit for her. I guess I'm not really understanding what 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2648-1 00:28:04.143 --> 00:28:05.938 the question is that's being asked. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2661-0 00:28:13.308 --> 00:28:16.953 If it's with regards to the like the custody of the materials that's being 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2661-1 00:28:16.953 --> 00:28:17.828 collected is that. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2665-0 00:28:19.298 --> 00:28:19.938 What we're clarifying? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2670-0 00:28:20.678 --> 00:28:21.998 Yeah, that was sorry. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2715-0 00:28:21.998 --> 00:28:26.148 My dogs are crazy that that was the question I was getting AT and and similar 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2715-1 00:28:26.148 --> 00:28:30.193 to my point earlier is that a lot of these programs to date are saying that 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2715-2 00:28:30.193 --> 00:28:32.587 sure, independent collection can't happen so 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2715-3 00:28:32.587 --> 00:28:36.578 long as you're meeting specific standards. But those batteries have to be. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2740-0 00:28:36.578 --> 00:28:40.303 Forfeited to a BSO, so if we're willing to come to the table 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2740-1 00:28:40.303 --> 00:28:44.151 and offer a collection on our own dime, that makes it cheaper. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2740-2 00:28:44.151 --> 00:28:45.678 You know for the program. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2753-0 00:28:46.298 --> 00:28:49.016 And the state overall, just having players come in that want to 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2753-1 00:28:49.016 --> 00:28:49.738 do this for free. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2763-0 00:28:50.848 --> 00:28:54.168 And as long as we're reporting the data, we see that as a good thing. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2812-0 00:28:55.698 --> 00:28:58.409 But if that forfeiture clause is is included here, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2812-1 00:28:58.409 --> 00:29:01.758 you know it doesn't really make sense that we work with a BSO. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2812-2 00:29:01.758 --> 00:29:05.373 We collect the batteries, but then we have to forfeit the batteries 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2812-3 00:29:05.373 --> 00:29:07.818 and then buy the batteries back from the BSO. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2840-0 00:29:08.338 --> 00:29:12.117 And I understand too, being a recycler, we're in a unique position because it's 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2840-1 00:29:12.117 --> 00:29:15.897 not just we're collecting the batteries and then selling those onto the market. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2840-2 00:29:15.897 --> 00:29:19.298 The batteries are are coming to us because we are the battery recycler. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2855-0 00:29:19.528 --> 00:29:23.947 So just trying to understand of how ownership of the battery is perceived in 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2855-1 00:29:23.947 --> 00:29:24.808 this situation. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2880-0 00:29:38.048 --> 00:29:41.222 Yeah, I guess to clarify and be clear that on 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2880-1 00:29:41.222 --> 00:29:46.328 any of our collection sites too, we accept all batteries that are put in. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2898-0 00:29:46.328 --> 00:29:51.358 So we bring them back, we sort through, we're directly recycling the lithium 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2898-1 00:29:51.358 --> 00:29:55.408 material and finding downstream partners to recycle the rest. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2915-0 00:29:56.938 --> 00:29:59.726 And that can all be reported as part of it, if that's. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2915-1 00:29:59.726 --> 00:30:01.298 If that's part of the question. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2943-0 00:30:03.818 --> 00:30:08.265 I think that the the idea here though is that we can streamline the process being 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2943-1 00:30:08.265 --> 00:30:12.496 allowed to collect directly and and be in the end processor for a lot of that 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2943-2 00:30:12.496 --> 00:30:13.418 material as well. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2951-0 00:30:33.508 --> 00:30:35.268 So I guess sounds like, well, I guess. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2965-0 00:30:37.778 --> 00:30:43.138 People can submit us written comments too, as to this issue and how. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2967-0 00:30:45.498 --> 00:30:45.658 They. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2981-0 00:30:47.378 --> 00:30:51.055 See it how they could you know, comments to this to address this. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2981-1 00:30:51.055 --> 00:30:52.058 The issue of this. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2986-0 00:31:06.408 --> 00:31:07.528 So we've got another person. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2992-0 00:31:09.018 --> 00:31:11.498 OK. So Curtis was first. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2995-0 00:31:13.138 --> 00:31:13.738 All right, Curtis. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3002-0 00:31:14.808 --> 00:31:16.168 Good afternoon, everybody. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3005-0 00:31:16.448 --> 00:31:17.848 This is Curtis Picard. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3011-0 00:31:17.848 --> 00:31:19.928 I run the Retail Association of Maine. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3031-0 00:31:20.368 --> 00:31:25.517 I wasn't able to attend the first meeting, so I'm really going off the straw man 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3031-1 00:31:25.517 --> 00:31:28.568 proposal and just have a couple quick comments. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3045-0 00:31:30.018 --> 00:31:34.778 We represent retailers of all different sizes. I appreciate that. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3056-0 00:31:35.098 --> 00:31:38.058 The collection program is voluntary. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3063-0 00:31:38.058 --> 00:31:40.738 We certainly would like it to stay voluntary. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3073-0 00:31:40.778 --> 00:31:44.129 We do that with other programs in the ball and the retailers that choose to 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3073-1 00:31:44.129 --> 00:31:44.658 participate. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3114-0 00:31:45.608 --> 00:31:50.193 In collection programs, choose to do so not be mandated, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3114-1 00:31:50.193 --> 00:31:56.065 but I would say one of the areas of concern that typically crops up with 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3114-2 00:31:56.065 --> 00:32:02.098 product recycling is any kind of compliance burden that's going to fall on 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3114-3 00:32:02.098 --> 00:32:07.568 retail to determine whether or not a product is complying with the. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3124-0 00:32:07.568 --> 00:32:11.448 Program or not, we think there should be some sort of. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3129-0 00:32:12.618 --> 00:32:14.378 You know, a really good brand registry. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3141-0 00:32:15.208 --> 00:32:20.168 A cure window a sell through or I think in other situations we've had. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3163-0 00:32:22.138 --> 00:32:27.467 Language where the producer or wholesaler is able to take the product back and 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3163-1 00:32:27.467 --> 00:32:29.018 reimburse the retailer. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3192-0 00:32:29.018 --> 00:32:32.009 So for example, for retailer made an investment in a 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3192-1 00:32:32.009 --> 00:32:35.789 substantial amount of inventory that is found to be non compliant. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3192-2 00:32:35.789 --> 00:32:38.498 The retailer shouldn't be on the hook for that. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3199-0 00:32:39.178 --> 00:32:42.218 It's up to the producer to make sure they're participating in this. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3202-0 00:32:44.018 --> 00:32:44.498 I'm encouraged. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3210-0 00:32:44.498 --> 00:32:46.578 By what I heard, because I don't know too much about these. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3218-0 00:32:46.888 --> 00:32:50.568 Containers, but one of the areas I think I would be. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3269-0 00:32:52.058 --> 00:32:57.403 Would have concern for some of the retailers, is the the potential fire risk? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3269-1 00:32:57.403 --> 00:33:02.473 So if these containers are fireproof, I like the idea of them being Wi-Fi 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3269-2 00:33:02.473 --> 00:33:07.338 connected and with, you know, a sensor to determine when they're full. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3286-0 00:33:07.338 --> 00:33:10.745 That's encouraging and helpful. So I appreciate that. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3286-1 00:33:10.745 --> 00:33:14.784 But if there is going to be multiple stewardship organizations, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3286-2 00:33:14.784 --> 00:33:16.298 I think retailers would. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3305-0 00:33:16.608 --> 00:33:22.574 And consumers would appreciate consistent branding and standardized standard 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3305-1 00:33:22.574 --> 00:33:25.208 operating procedures and labeling. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3309-0 00:33:26.898 --> 00:33:27.698 So I think that's it. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3314-0 00:33:27.858 --> 00:33:29.738 Just wanted to offer those comments at this point. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3319-0 00:33:37.068 --> 00:33:38.108 OK, Katie. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3347-0 00:33:38.108 --> 00:33:40.880 Yes, I guess I would just send me if in the 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3347-1 00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:45.037 case of multiple PR OS, I do see them being coordinated effort to 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3347-2 00:33:45.037 --> 00:33:48.628 kind of like the way, although there's only two the way. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3350-0 00:33:50.098 --> 00:33:50.658 Pharmaceutical. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3355-0 00:33:52.978 --> 00:33:54.178 Yeah, pharmaceutical. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3362-0 00:33:56.498 --> 00:33:56.778 R PR PRP. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3375-0 00:33:57.018 --> 00:34:00.698 Sorry, I'm going back to my old days. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3377-0 00:34:00.738 --> 00:34:04.418 The pharmaceutical PRM's are doing it. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3381-0 00:34:03.168 --> 00:34:05.448 Take back the payback. Yeah, yeah. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3383-0 00:34:05.118 --> 00:34:07.318 Yeah, great. Yeah. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3404-0 00:34:08.818 --> 00:34:13.027 That would be, I foresee a robust coordination between 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3404-1 00:34:13.027 --> 00:34:17.618 if there's multiple PR OS to have one system for the state. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3406-0 00:34:21.158 --> 00:34:21.838 Thanks Curtis. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3409-0 00:34:23.338 --> 00:34:24.258 Katie's up. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3429-0 00:34:27.008 --> 00:34:29.874 Thank you, Katie Riley with the Consumer Technology 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3429-1 00:34:29.874 --> 00:34:31.968 Association, we go by the acronym CTA. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3467-0 00:34:32.848 --> 00:34:37.454 We're North America's largest technology trade association and we represent the 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3467-1 00:34:37.454 --> 00:34:41.715 companies that have supported the electronics EPR program there in Maine. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3467-2 00:34:41.715 --> 00:34:45.458 I think I was pulling the stats yesterday and it's over 100,000, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3467-3 00:34:45.458 --> 00:34:49.374 000 lbs of electronics that our Members have responsibly supported. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3467-4 00:34:49.374 --> 00:34:50.698 The collection and rec. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3472-0 00:34:51.008 --> 00:34:52.408 Of there in the state of Maine. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3488-0 00:34:53.448 --> 00:34:58.608 I do have kind of one comment with maybe a question as well and one question. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3491-0 00:34:58.608 --> 00:34:59.968 So I'll start with a comment. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3514-0 00:35:00.528 --> 00:35:04.372 We're kind of hyper focused on battery embedded products and how those may or 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3514-1 00:35:04.372 --> 00:35:06.688 may not be handled as part of this discussion. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3553-0 00:35:06.688 --> 00:35:11.633 So we definitely were heartened to see that there would be additional evaluation 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3553-1 00:35:11.633 --> 00:35:16.333 and development around how best to handle battery embedded products from our 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3553-2 00:35:16.333 --> 00:35:19.385 perspective, kind of the scope of the category of 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3553-3 00:35:19.385 --> 00:35:21.888 battery embedded products is still being. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3563-0 00:35:22.288 --> 00:35:24.128 Sort of figure it out and determined. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3583-0 00:35:24.288 --> 00:35:27.459 We know it's a really vast and diverse set of products, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3583-1 00:35:27.459 --> 00:35:30.008 everything from consumer electronics, right? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3599-0 00:35:30.008 --> 00:35:34.008 To light up tennis shoes to gardening and lawn equipment, to vaping products. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3642-0 00:35:34.128 --> 00:35:38.602 So we appreciate DEP's reference to the studies that are happening elsewhere in 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3642-1 00:35:38.602 --> 00:35:42.182 several other states, and we definitely support that additional 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3642-2 00:35:42.182 --> 00:35:46.153 dialogue and evaluation is needed, and we hope that would happen via a 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3642-3 00:35:46.153 --> 00:35:50.291 stakeholder process that's specific to Maine to really determine if these 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3642-4 00:35:50.291 --> 00:35:51.298 products fit into. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3666-0 00:35:51.298 --> 00:35:54.634 An existing, you know EPR program or collection and 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3666-1 00:35:54.634 --> 00:35:59.510 recycling infrastructure or if there are unique needs based on the specific 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3666-2 00:35:59.510 --> 00:36:00.408 product types. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3685-0 00:36:00.408 --> 00:36:04.195 So like for example we know that electronics recyclers don't want vaping 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3685-1 00:36:04.195 --> 00:36:07.048 products in their facilities for a variety of reasons. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3701-0 00:36:07.128 --> 00:36:10.045 Or lawn equipment. They may have gasoline present that 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3701-1 00:36:10.045 --> 00:36:11.848 creates another set of challenges. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3725-0 00:36:11.848 --> 00:36:16.493 So we do know other jurisdictions are looking at evaluation and phased in 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3725-1 00:36:16.493 --> 00:36:20.888 approaches kind of via small groupings of similar product categories. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3762-0 00:36:20.888 --> 00:36:25.360 That's happening in Quebec right now. So just I guess the comment that we 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3762-1 00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:29.650 appreciate that main DEP wants to be thoughtful and kind of look at an 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3762-2 00:36:29.650 --> 00:36:33.215 evaluation process. Maybe the question here is what is DEP 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3762-3 00:36:33.215 --> 00:36:34.968 envisioning for that process? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3798-0 00:36:35.128 --> 00:36:39.690 Is that kind of going to be incorporated as part of the legislation that 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3798-1 00:36:39.690 --> 00:36:42.628 presumably will come from the Straw Man draft, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3798-2 00:36:42.628 --> 00:36:47.128 or is that something that will be addressed in like future EPR reports? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3801-0 00:36:47.778 --> 00:36:48.098 And future. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3812-0 00:36:48.538 --> 00:36:50.938 Just kind of DEP LED discussions over the next several years. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3832-0 00:36:52.388 --> 00:36:55.533 At this time, I'd like it to be in the legislation 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3832-1 00:36:55.533 --> 00:36:58.308 itself, in some type of way that we address. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3844-0 00:37:00.098 --> 00:37:03.683 Basically, I guess the term would be kind of develop 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3844-1 00:37:03.683 --> 00:37:04.698 an on ramp for. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3862-0 00:37:06.978 --> 00:37:12.267 Embedded battery products and I and I. And I'll be honest, I'm kind of, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3862-1 00:37:12.267 --> 00:37:15.058 we're still kind of working as to how. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3874-0 00:37:16.698 --> 00:37:20.158 Working on how that approach would actually look in writing in the 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3874-1 00:37:20.158 --> 00:37:20.778 legislation. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3884-0 00:37:21.528 --> 00:37:26.808 So if there are any, anyone has any proposals? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3897-0 00:37:28.378 --> 00:37:31.458 Feel free to submit them, but I mean, we do know that. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3904-0 00:37:31.578 --> 00:37:35.258 I mean that they are an issue that we want to address, so. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3927-0 00:37:36.898 --> 00:37:40.885 Whether or not there's a staggered approach where we somehow work 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3927-1 00:37:40.885 --> 00:37:43.724 legislatively, stay where we we come up with a 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3927-2 00:37:43.724 --> 00:37:45.778 categorization system and address. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3936-0 00:37:47.618 --> 00:37:50.218 Address products category by category. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3940-0 00:37:50.608 --> 00:37:52.128 And where they might fit. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3955-0 00:37:53.618 --> 00:38:00.498 With maybe a some type of calendar kind of to to kind of lock that process in. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3978-0 00:38:02.108 --> 00:38:05.045 OK. And that would be adep spearheaded 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3978-1 00:38:05.045 --> 00:38:09.188 stakeholder process or DEP just doing that on its own? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3974-0 00:38:07.138 --> 00:38:07.738 Yeah. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3984-0 00:38:09.218 --> 00:38:13.258 Yeah, that would be adep spearheaded process. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3986-0 00:38:14.318 --> 00:38:15.678 OK, OK. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3998-0 00:38:17.138 --> 00:38:19.194 Yeah, we'll put together some thoughts around 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3998-1 00:38:19.194 --> 00:38:19.418 this. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4032-0 00:38:19.418 --> 00:38:21.626 You know, it's something that we've very much 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4032-1 00:38:21.626 --> 00:38:24.554 thought about. You know, there may be compatibility with the 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4032-2 00:38:24.554 --> 00:38:27.914 electronics recycling system or structure there for certain products, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4032-3 00:38:27.914 --> 00:38:31.562 but definitely not everything with an embedded battery is going to fit into 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4032-4 00:38:31.562 --> 00:38:32.138 that system. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4039-0 00:38:32.138 --> 00:38:36.578 So thank you. And then my other question. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4055-0 00:38:38.218 --> 00:38:40.944 So in this section around covered products, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4055-1 00:38:40.944 --> 00:38:44.538 you noted that producers of products that have batteries. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4095-0 00:38:44.888 --> 00:38:50.514 Is included in sale would be within scope is that I want to clarify is that that 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4095-1 00:38:50.514 --> 00:38:55.863 the producer of a product that has a removable battery pays into the program 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4095-2 00:38:55.863 --> 00:39:00.031 for the batteries that are included in sale of the product, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4095-3 00:39:00.031 --> 00:39:02.948 but the product itself is not required to. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4108-0 00:39:02.938 --> 00:39:06.248 Be covered in the be collected in the system. Is that correct? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4114-0 00:39:06.628 --> 00:39:07.588 Yes, that's correct. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4131-0 00:39:07.588 --> 00:39:11.629 The product is the remote and like in the case of a remote control, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4115-0 00:39:07.738 --> 00:39:07.898 OK. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4131-1 00:39:11.629 --> 00:39:13.828 the remote control would be included. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4140-0 00:39:13.828 --> 00:39:15.948 Just the batteries that come with it. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4137-0 00:39:16.188 --> 00:39:16.548 OK. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4154-0 00:39:16.548 --> 00:39:20.843 So the producer of that product would pay into the system for the battery that 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4154-1 00:39:20.843 --> 00:39:22.148 accompanies that remote. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4168-0 00:39:22.148 --> 00:39:24.124 The battery can be collected through the system, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4168-1 00:39:24.124 --> 00:39:27.068 but it's not mandating the collection of the rest of the remote control. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4171-0 00:39:28.888 --> 00:39:29.608 Correct. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4172-0 00:39:29.918 --> 00:39:30.278 OK. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4176-0 00:39:30.318 --> 00:39:30.798 Thank you. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4189-0 00:39:30.798 --> 00:39:34.638 Just wanted to confirm that's how most of the battery stewardship laws operate. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4194-0 00:39:34.638 --> 00:39:36.678 So just wanted to confirm that's the case here. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4198-0 00:39:36.678 --> 00:39:37.278 Thank you very much. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4200-0 00:39:37.058 --> 00:39:38.218 Sure. Yeah. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4234-0 00:39:38.218 --> 00:39:43.204 And I guess the two would like the comments like which you know of the 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4234-1 00:39:43.204 --> 00:39:49.103 product, what what I don't wanna say this, if you have a proposal for the different 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4234-2 00:39:49.103 --> 00:39:53.738 categories of products with embedded batteries which would which? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4257-0 00:39:55.418 --> 00:39:58.362 Would, which makes sense to include with a, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4257-1 00:39:58.362 --> 00:40:03.647 which would make sense to include in a current e-waste program that would then 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4257-2 00:40:03.647 --> 00:40:06.858 of course need to be expanded to include those. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4270-0 00:40:07.568 --> 00:40:13.688 And which products are such that really should have their own standalone? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4272-0 00:40:15.198 --> 00:40:15.798 Program. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4278-0 00:40:17.038 --> 00:40:17.878 Sure we can. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4320-0 00:40:17.878 --> 00:40:22.139 We can discuss that with our Members. You all have a very unique structure 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4320-1 00:40:22.139 --> 00:40:25.207 there in Maine for how your e-waste program operates, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4320-2 00:40:25.207 --> 00:40:29.810 including some brand sorting that kind of adds some some cost into the system as 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4320-3 00:40:29.810 --> 00:40:32.878 sort of a structure. We've moved away from and a lot. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4354-0 00:40:33.148 --> 00:40:36.930 State electronics CPR programs, but happy to give some thought to that 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4354-1 00:40:36.930 --> 00:40:40.977 and maybe do a sit down with DEP to talk further about the goals around the 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4354-2 00:40:40.977 --> 00:40:43.108 electronics EPR program into the future. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4359-0 00:40:43.778 --> 00:40:45.458 Sure, Freddie. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4360-0 00:40:46.018 --> 00:40:46.898 Thank you. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4365-0 00:40:48.028 --> 00:40:49.228 Next up is Brett. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4375-0 00:40:50.938 --> 00:40:52.749 Yes, my name is Brett Scott from Haven 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4375-1 00:40:52.749 --> 00:40:53.538 Management group. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4423-0 00:40:53.538 --> 00:40:59.222 I just want to bring up my concern as a chain retailer in terms of if there's an 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4423-1 00:40:59.222 --> 00:41:02.380 Ave. for the retailer to serve as ultimately 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4423-2 00:41:02.380 --> 00:41:08.135 the person to take responsibility for the being a part of the stewardship program 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4423-3 00:41:08.135 --> 00:41:11.644 for select products. I'm concerned about smaller, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4423-4 00:41:11.644 --> 00:41:13.258 more fragmented indust. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4471-0 00:41:14.018 --> 00:41:18.627 In which you know we don't have traditional distribution channels of 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4471-1 00:41:18.627 --> 00:41:23.971 where you can reach the manufacturer or in a way that the Manu are large enough 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4471-2 00:41:23.971 --> 00:41:27.913 or to be able to actually care to partake in this program. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4471-3 00:41:27.913 --> 00:41:32.188 And I'm just concerned about a lot of smaller retailers having. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4505-0 00:41:32.188 --> 00:41:35.681 A lot of products that the manufacturers are not willing to partake, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4505-1 00:41:35.681 --> 00:41:38.162 and at least if we have the option to, you know, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4505-2 00:41:38.162 --> 00:41:41.908 handle that for those products that are being sold out of our own stores. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4556-0 00:41:41.908 --> 00:41:46.092 But I think of things like gift shops throughout the state. I think of, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4556-1 00:41:46.092 --> 00:41:48.939 you know, surplus retailers that have, you know, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4556-2 00:41:48.939 --> 00:41:53.529 fragmented inventory coming in that the manufacturer isn't going to care about 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4556-3 00:41:53.529 --> 00:41:56.783 registering even hardware stores, discount tool stores, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4556-4 00:41:56.783 --> 00:41:59.398 just a lot of Main Street businesses in bus. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4572-0 00:41:59.398 --> 00:42:02.308 Like my own, where I think it'd be very challenging to 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4572-1 00:42:02.308 --> 00:42:03.948 get the manufacturers on board. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4614-0 00:42:03.948 --> 00:42:06.647 You know, we as a retailer want to do the right 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4614-1 00:42:06.647 --> 00:42:09.403 thing, but this is going to restrict the product 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4614-2 00:42:09.403 --> 00:42:13.734 availability that we're able to offer. And I also feel by offering that Ave. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4614-3 00:42:13.734 --> 00:42:18.346 it'll allow the program itself to be more successful because even things like you 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4614-4 00:42:18.346 --> 00:42:18.908 know this. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4620-0 00:42:18.908 --> 00:42:20.588 Mentions online and I think about. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4665-0 00:42:20.788 --> 00:42:23.650 Sellers on Amazon that maybe just a mom and pop business, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4665-1 00:42:23.650 --> 00:42:26.856 but they're just a reseller selling through Amazon and you know, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4665-2 00:42:26.856 --> 00:42:30.458 at least that way there. You know, there's somebody that really is being 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4665-3 00:42:30.458 --> 00:42:33.813 held responsible that if these products are coming into the market, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4665-4 00:42:33.813 --> 00:42:34.948 this person is respons. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4679-0 00:42:35.148 --> 00:42:39.668 For it, unless the manufacturer is is handling it. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4698-0 00:42:39.668 --> 00:42:43.602 So I just would love to see some Ave. to be able to basically cover those 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4698-1 00:42:43.602 --> 00:42:47.749 products that are not a part of this. So we don't lose the option to sell the 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4698-2 00:42:47.749 --> 00:42:48.228 products. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4710-0 00:42:51.988 --> 00:42:57.060 OK. I mean in some ways that brings up the 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4710-1 00:42:57.060 --> 00:42:58.948 issue of I mean. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4715-0 00:43:00.438 --> 00:43:00.718 If a if. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4734-0 00:43:00.718 --> 00:43:05.456 A product's not if a product's not covered then it's getting into the system 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4734-1 00:43:05.456 --> 00:43:08.718 and it's basically free riding into that system. So. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4741-0 00:43:10.878 --> 00:43:13.158 I guess we'd have to, you know. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4740-0 00:43:12.708 --> 00:43:13.028 OK. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4759-0 00:43:15.628 --> 00:43:17.661 Brian, I guess my point is that like as a 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4759-1 00:43:17.661 --> 00:43:20.129 retailer, I'd be willing to take on that financial 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4759-2 00:43:20.129 --> 00:43:20.468 burden. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4777-0 00:43:20.468 --> 00:43:24.428 So it's not being a free rider, it's just that that product, you know, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4777-1 00:43:24.428 --> 00:43:28.668 can't be sold anywhere unless the retailer's taking on that responsibility. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4782-0 00:43:28.668 --> 00:43:31.148 For what they're selling out of their store. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4783-0 00:43:31.868 --> 00:43:32.268 OK. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4787-0 00:43:40.428 --> 00:43:42.028 Ashley, do you have a response? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4802-0 00:43:45.418 --> 00:43:49.586 I had a question going back to the multiple battery stewardship 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4802-1 00:43:49.586 --> 00:43:50.498 organizations. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4815-0 00:43:51.878 --> 00:43:54.998 Did you want to take another second to keep talking about Brett's question or 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4815-1 00:43:54.998 --> 00:43:55.958 can I start a new topic? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4830-0 00:43:59.018 --> 00:44:02.258 I think I think it's just something we'll we'll note how. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4837-0 00:44:02.258 --> 00:44:05.018 I guess that's something that's come up and we'll note how we would. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4840-0 00:44:07.798 --> 00:44:08.838 How products? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4843-0 00:44:10.698 --> 00:44:12.058 Coming into the. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4847-0 00:44:13.638 --> 00:44:14.518 They have. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4851-0 00:44:14.518 --> 00:44:16.558 They might have that interaction might work. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4853-0 00:44:18.228 --> 00:44:18.588 Thank you. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4855-0 00:44:22.608 --> 00:44:22.968 OK. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4858-0 00:44:22.968 --> 00:44:23.688 Go ahead, Ashley. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4860-0 00:44:24.678 --> 00:44:25.358 Thank you. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4892-0 00:44:26.838 --> 00:44:33.519 So my question is or beginning statement is that we we are supportive of the PRBA 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4892-1 00:44:33.519 --> 00:44:40.038 model for not having battery stewardship organizations be limited to nonprofit? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4922-0 00:44:40.038 --> 00:44:42.478 So if that is something you're considering, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4922-1 00:44:42.478 --> 00:44:46.637 we we are favorable towards that and we also appreciate that the the draft 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4922-2 00:44:46.637 --> 00:44:50.242 language sent around so far recommendations states that multiple 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4922-3 00:44:50.242 --> 00:44:53.958 battery stewardship organizations can coordinate with one another. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4934-0 00:44:55.828 --> 00:44:59.508 Our team is looking for a little bit more clarity on coordination. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4971-0 00:44:59.748 --> 00:45:02.903 Specifically, we're advocating that battery stewardship 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4971-1 00:45:02.903 --> 00:45:05.607 organizations, if multiple of them are allowed, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4971-2 00:45:05.607 --> 00:45:09.776 that they can collectively work together to achieve statewide convenience 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4971-3 00:45:09.776 --> 00:45:14.001 standards as opposed to each battery stewardship organization individually 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4971-4 00:45:14.001 --> 00:45:18.114 having to meet the same convenience standards and being charged the same 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4971-5 00:45:18.114 --> 00:45:18.508 amount. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4983-0 00:45:19.318 --> 00:45:23.398 To submit a battery stewardship plan or any other fees to the state. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4995-0 00:45:24.948 --> 00:45:30.348 So I can pause there if you have any questions, but we're looking for. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5012-0 00:45:32.118 --> 00:45:36.556 Multiple battery storage organizations to collectively work together as opposed to 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5012-1 00:45:36.556 --> 00:45:37.518 just coordinating. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5020-0 00:45:39.118 --> 00:45:41.198 But I'm not quite sure what your definition of coordinating is. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5027-0 00:45:43.068 --> 00:45:45.148 Yeah, but we have enough staff for that. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5053-0 00:45:45.748 --> 00:45:52.148 Well, I mean well, I guess, I mean, yeah, I guess to be we, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5053-1 00:45:52.148 --> 00:46:00.148 I guess the whole question of of how the how the if there's multiple bsos. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5060-0 00:46:01.758 --> 00:46:03.238 How? What is the level of? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5076-0 00:46:05.078 --> 00:46:12.118 Of coordination that we would want to not impose is the right word, but we. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5086-0 00:46:12.998 --> 00:46:18.438 Would require and I guess that's something we would look be looking for. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5091-0 00:46:20.358 --> 00:46:21.998 Assist with defining. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5104-0 00:46:24.558 --> 00:46:27.998 And really quickly, just under score as well. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5146-0 00:46:28.518 --> 00:46:31.141 You know, multiple battery stewardship 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5146-1 00:46:31.141 --> 00:46:36.184 organizations that may allow for a producer to represent the the their own 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5146-2 00:46:36.184 --> 00:46:40.622 selves if they'd like to or you know, a group of three producers. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5146-3 00:46:40.622 --> 00:46:46.204 It's just it's a little inequitable for a BSO that has maybe 50 producers versus a 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5146-4 00:46:46.204 --> 00:46:47.078 BSO that has. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5160-0 00:46:47.078 --> 00:46:50.838 3 producers or a singular producer to all be expected to meet the same. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5169-0 00:46:51.518 --> 00:46:53.718 Convenience standards and if they could work collectively, it would. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5172-0 00:46:54.268 --> 00:46:55.108 It would. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5193-0 00:46:55.268 --> 00:47:01.422 It would support a multiple BSO model as opposed to each group having to meet the 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5193-1 00:47:01.422 --> 00:47:02.548 same standards. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5208-0 00:47:02.548 --> 00:47:06.164 That really just pushes everybody to do a single stewardship model, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5208-1 00:47:06.164 --> 00:47:07.228 if that makes sense. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5206-0 00:47:06.538 --> 00:47:07.258 Hi guy. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5215-0 00:47:07.258 --> 00:47:09.378 Yeah, I got to know what you're saying now. Now. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5220-0 00:47:09.378 --> 00:47:13.258 Sorry, yeah, making so like having a statewide. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5236-0 00:47:14.718 --> 00:47:19.484 Having multiple the multiple bsos work towards the statewide convenience 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5236-1 00:47:19.484 --> 00:47:20.398 standard, say. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5243-0 00:47:22.078 --> 00:47:23.918 As opposed to each one replicating. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5245-0 00:47:25.598 --> 00:47:26.478 Collection points. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5248-0 00:47:28.158 --> 00:47:28.958 Exactly. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5251-0 00:47:28.798 --> 00:47:30.318 Yeah, I gotcha. Yeah. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5255-0 00:47:39.708 --> 00:47:41.708 Nothing from the Internet right now. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5258-0 00:47:41.708 --> 00:47:42.908 Anything from the table? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5268-0 00:47:44.358 --> 00:47:48.118 I have something I just at the first meeting. Mike and Carol again. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5273-0 00:47:51.558 --> 00:47:53.238 So in our experience. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5288-0 00:47:55.158 --> 00:47:58.165 I mean, we definitely support this as we see how 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5288-1 00:47:58.165 --> 00:48:00.558 how things stand out in our experience. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5297-0 00:48:00.558 --> 00:48:04.678 This stuff's in the garbage right now and it's can be combustible. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5307-0 00:48:04.758 --> 00:48:08.838 But garbage is really wet, so we tend to see it smolder for a while. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5343-0 00:48:09.228 --> 00:48:14.202 Well, and have time to attend to it. If these are being collected separately 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5343-1 00:48:14.202 --> 00:48:18.594 and like we're we're we're promoting this to our transfer stations, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5343-2 00:48:18.594 --> 00:48:23.761 I really like the sound of a fireproof box because I think if they're collected 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5343-3 00:48:23.761 --> 00:48:27.508 in now that they're collected together and dry and every. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5356-0 00:48:27.508 --> 00:48:32.188 Else the chance of something being combustible and spreading a lot quicker. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5364-0 00:48:33.718 --> 00:48:35.758 Is not like when we're seeing it in the garbage. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5372-0 00:48:35.758 --> 00:48:37.758 Garbage is really, really wet, and there's lots of it. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5412-0 00:48:38.828 --> 00:48:44.076 And so we can tend to get to it where if you're throwing these in a bin that's on 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5412-1 00:48:44.076 --> 00:48:47.340 top of a pallet and they crack and and start fire, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5412-2 00:48:47.340 --> 00:48:52.396 that's all plastic in that bin that I think is a lot drier and it could spread 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5412-3 00:48:52.396 --> 00:48:53.548 much more quickly. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5442-0 00:48:53.548 --> 00:48:57.397 I've heard a bunch about fireproof and as you write this I think that should be 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5442-1 00:48:57.397 --> 00:49:00.428 something we should consider. That collection of these things. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5450-0 00:49:00.428 --> 00:49:05.148 Isn't that the vendor's supplying a firecracker, right? So. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5453-0 00:49:05.838 --> 00:49:06.478 The so pretty robust. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5462-0 00:49:07.998 --> 00:49:11.598 Right. Description of of what the collection. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5478-0 00:49:12.468 --> 00:49:16.932 Infrastructure is gonna like, I believe, e-waste right now has to be in it's own 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5478-1 00:49:16.932 --> 00:49:17.428 building. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5481-0 00:49:17.508 --> 00:49:19.308 It is. Yes, yes. So. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5497-0 00:49:20.838 --> 00:49:25.357 So there should be some pretty robust and specific requirements for collection 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5497-1 00:49:25.357 --> 00:49:25.758 points. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5519-0 00:49:25.758 --> 00:49:29.552 There's a thing called the Gaylord that sits on top of a pallet that's like a 4 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5519-1 00:49:29.552 --> 00:49:32.018 by 4 box. If these things are getting thrown in the 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5519-2 00:49:32.018 --> 00:49:33.678 Gables and that would have combust. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5526-0 00:49:33.678 --> 00:49:36.078 And I just think it's a lot drier than garbage. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5533-0 00:49:36.078 --> 00:49:37.958 It's it's gonna spread a lot quicker, right? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5538-0 00:49:37.958 --> 00:49:41.558 So, so so plan would include a robust. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5550-0 00:49:42.348 --> 00:49:47.428 Description of a call it the at point collection infrastructure. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5575-0 00:49:48.918 --> 00:49:52.279 With the funding, I can see a support in this to our our 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5575-1 00:49:52.279 --> 00:49:56.229 all our transfer stations, but if they're being thrown in the pile 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5575-2 00:49:56.229 --> 00:49:57.998 right, you don't wanna, right? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5590-0 00:49:57.998 --> 00:50:01.885 I just wouldn't want to see that, right? So so there would be both a well said 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5590-1 00:50:01.885 --> 00:50:02.918 that goes along with. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5596-0 00:50:05.198 --> 00:50:09.438 A infrastructure and training. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5598-0 00:50:11.398 --> 00:50:11.958 Requirements. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5629-0 00:50:13.628 --> 00:50:16.972 But like I said, waist is really wet, so the chances of coming in the next 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5629-1 00:50:16.972 --> 00:50:20.717 morning seeing something like wet leaves, seeing something smaller and we have time 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5629-2 00:50:20.717 --> 00:50:23.081 to react, right. If something would happen overnight 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5629-3 00:50:23.081 --> 00:50:25.488 within hours, it could. It could spread much quicker, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5629-4 00:50:25.488 --> 00:50:26.068 much quicker. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5634-0 00:50:26.188 --> 00:50:29.308 So OK, I would say that. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5642-0 00:50:30.838 --> 00:50:32.998 If you're talking about transfer stations. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5664-0 00:50:34.308 --> 00:50:38.322 I think there needs to be more education done at the transfer stations, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5664-1 00:50:38.322 --> 00:50:41.221 specifically when when they're receiving batteries, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5664-2 00:50:41.221 --> 00:50:43.228 specifically rechargeable batteries. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5678-0 00:50:45.798 --> 00:50:49.078 The perpetrator of fires most of the time. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5707-0 00:50:49.078 --> 00:50:53.771 Or lithium ion batteries. And what really needs to happen is is 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5707-1 00:50:53.771 --> 00:50:59.711 when these batteries are then taken to a transfer station that there be a visual 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5707-2 00:50:59.711 --> 00:51:02.278 inspection of that battery because. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5733-0 00:51:02.628 --> 00:51:07.330 These fires occur with lithium ion batteries when when these batteries are 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5733-1 00:51:07.330 --> 00:51:10.716 damaged. OK, when some type of damage has occurred to 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5733-2 00:51:10.716 --> 00:51:11.468 the battery. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5751-0 00:51:12.958 --> 00:51:18.158 Or it's an extremely cheap lithium ion battery made in China, for example. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5757-0 00:51:18.158 --> 00:51:22.238 That that will self combust. OK, that could happen too. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5801-0 00:51:23.268 --> 00:51:28.270 But I think there needs to be a whole process here as far as the container's 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5801-1 00:51:28.270 --> 00:51:31.973 concerned from a recycler's perspective, my perspective, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5801-2 00:51:31.973 --> 00:51:37.105 there's a cost associated with that, and if the state says that that container 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5801-3 00:51:37.105 --> 00:51:41.718 has to have certain requirements, then there's a cost associated with. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5813-0 00:51:41.718 --> 00:51:44.708 That and I need to be able to cover that cost. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5818-0 00:51:45.068 --> 00:51:48.148 So I I think you know I think. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5823-0 00:51:48.838 --> 00:51:50.038 If everybody does their part. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5827-0 00:51:51.838 --> 00:51:52.758 And that we? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5832-0 00:51:53.028 --> 00:51:56.788 We do a education with the with the. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5854-0 00:51:58.558 --> 00:52:01.331 With the transfer stations, because a lot of them, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5854-1 00:52:01.331 --> 00:52:05.355 they don't take these lithium ion batteries because they're afraid of EM, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5854-2 00:52:05.355 --> 00:52:05.518 OK? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5866-0 00:52:07.238 --> 00:52:10.798 They think that they're gonna start a fire and and they won't. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5888-0 00:52:11.078 --> 00:52:16.029 There's a reason why they're being used, but if they come in damaged then then 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5888-1 00:52:16.029 --> 00:52:20.417 they need to tell that person. You need to find another home for that 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5888-2 00:52:20.417 --> 00:52:20.918 battery. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5890-0 00:52:21.268 --> 00:52:21.788 OK. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5897-0 00:52:23.278 --> 00:52:25.238 Which would probably be a hazardous waste site. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5909-0 00:52:27.158 --> 00:52:30.558 So these transfer stations should not even accept damage. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5910-0 00:52:30.838 --> 00:52:30.878 A. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5914-0 00:52:30.878 --> 00:52:32.958 Rechargeable batteries OK. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5930-0 00:52:33.278 --> 00:52:37.602 That's where that starts, and not relying on the container to be 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5930-1 00:52:37.602 --> 00:52:39.398 able to prevent a fire, OK. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5939-0 00:52:39.398 --> 00:52:42.318 So I think there needs to be a little bit more to the process. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5946-0 00:52:47.558 --> 00:52:49.918 For the record, your name and organization. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5949-0 00:52:49.998 --> 00:52:52.598 I'm sorry. My name is Bill Dow. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5968-0 00:52:53.398 --> 00:52:59.216 I'm the founder of a startup battery recycling company here in the state of 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5968-1 00:52:59.216 --> 00:53:02.278 Maine called Battery Recycling Services. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5970-0 00:53:03.718 --> 00:53:03.998 And. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5977-0 00:53:06.118 --> 00:53:07.718 I've been doing this for about two years now. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5983-0 00:53:09.238 --> 00:53:11.078 In my background, I actually come from Europe. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5996-0 00:53:12.678 --> 00:53:16.438 So I know battery recycling from the European side very well. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6015-0 00:53:17.158 --> 00:53:20.704 And you know I'm, you know, I'm starting this here in, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6015-1 00:53:20.704 --> 00:53:25.218 in Maine for the past two years, but specifically focused on consumer 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6015-2 00:53:25.218 --> 00:53:25.798 patterns. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6017-0 00:53:32.288 --> 00:53:32.448 OK. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6018-0 00:53:32.528 --> 00:53:33.248 Thank you. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6042-0 00:53:35.198 --> 00:53:39.610 So I agree with Bill that they have to be damaged and that's most cases. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6042-1 00:53:39.610 --> 00:53:43.841 But my concern with that is if they refuse the pickup of the battery, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6042-2 00:53:43.841 --> 00:53:46.078 where's that battery going to end up? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6043-0 00:53:46.078 --> 00:53:47.078 That's right. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6078-0 00:53:47.358 --> 00:53:51.443 My other concern is it may not be damaged when they receive it, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6078-1 00:53:51.443 --> 00:53:54.699 but when you toss one of these things into a pile, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6078-2 00:53:54.699 --> 00:53:58.593 it could crack or the weight of you know, as the pile grows, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6078-3 00:53:58.593 --> 00:54:02.678 something could happen that would be if they get damaged after. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6083-0 00:54:03.478 --> 00:54:04.958 They're if they're not in something. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6087-0 00:54:05.348 --> 00:54:06.188 Foolproof, right? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6113-0 00:54:06.188 --> 00:54:09.998 Yes, or orderly secure, but most fires do start from because why 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6113-1 00:54:09.998 --> 00:54:14.688 they start in the in the trash is from the compacting trucks are being run over 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6113-2 00:54:14.688 --> 00:54:16.388 and that type of thing, yeah. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6125-0 00:54:16.708 --> 00:54:20.788 But I would be concerned of if they refused. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6136-0 00:54:20.868 --> 00:54:23.343 A battery. Does that end up being tossed off the 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6136-1 00:54:23.343 --> 00:54:25.868 window after they get? What does that battery go? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6155-0 00:54:26.898 --> 00:54:31.589 And if it gets tossed in the pile and gets cracked or damaged from doing that, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6155-1 00:54:31.589 --> 00:54:34.618 we're still. We're still in the same place, right? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6189-0 00:54:34.938 --> 00:54:40.701 And I guess just to like, I mean the other kind of damaged battery 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6189-1 00:54:40.701 --> 00:54:47.323 that comes up is is manufacturer, Steve, a manufacturer's defective battery, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6189-2 00:54:47.323 --> 00:54:51.538 which I believe we we propose would actually be. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6213-0 00:54:54.288 --> 00:55:00.085 That the manufacturer itself would be responsible for its its own defective 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6213-1 00:55:00.085 --> 00:55:00.848 batteries. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6230-0 00:55:00.848 --> 00:55:07.615 That wouldn't be part of the program unless there was a agreement for it to be 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6230-1 00:55:07.615 --> 00:55:10.528 sold and compensation for that so. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6236-0 00:55:12.038 --> 00:55:13.598 Courtney's important to the screen. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6240-0 00:55:13.598 --> 00:55:15.478 Yep, we've got Mark first. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6243-0 00:55:17.238 --> 00:55:17.558 All right, mark. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6251-0 00:55:18.488 --> 00:55:20.208 Yeah, hi, it's mark from Prba. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6268-0 00:55:20.208 --> 00:55:23.947 The rechargeable battery recycling or excuse me from the rechargeable Battery 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6268-1 00:55:23.947 --> 00:55:26.248 Association looking at two things at once here. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6290-0 00:55:27.798 --> 00:55:31.325 So these, you know, waste batteries are very heavily 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6290-1 00:55:31.325 --> 00:55:35.318 controlled according to transportation guidelines and laws. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6310-0 00:55:35.318 --> 00:55:41.735 So the programs are designed to mitigate the the opportunities or the chances for 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6310-1 00:55:41.735 --> 00:55:44.318 fire as well as follow fire code. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6315-0 00:55:44.318 --> 00:55:47.518 So that is part of the all applicable. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6329-0 00:55:47.828 --> 00:55:52.708 State and federal laws that apply now having said that, is it foolproof? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6336-0 00:55:52.708 --> 00:55:55.554 No, I mean, there's no such thing as foolproof with 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6336-1 00:55:55.554 --> 00:55:55.828 this. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6372-0 00:55:55.828 --> 00:55:58.587 You know, we try to control it with these programs 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6372-1 00:55:58.587 --> 00:56:01.401 as best as possible, but nothing is is a guarantee, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6372-2 00:56:01.401 --> 00:56:04.810 but the program is absolutely established to follow, you know, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6372-3 00:56:04.810 --> 00:56:08.543 fire code guidelines as well as transportation guidelines to prevent 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6372-4 00:56:08.543 --> 00:56:08.868 fires. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6379-0 00:56:15.088 --> 00:56:17.368 We have Jennifer up next, Jennifer. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6394-0 00:56:19.418 --> 00:56:22.698 Hello Jen Dobbolanio from the Hazardous Waste management unit. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6407-0 00:56:22.698 --> 00:56:26.658 Again, I wanted to speak briefly to Mr. Dow's point. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6438-0 00:56:27.498 --> 00:56:33.914 Our unit is also involved with quarterly reporting directly from businesses and 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6438-1 00:56:33.914 --> 00:56:40.089 transfer stations because any business or town transfer station that accepts 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6438-2 00:56:40.089 --> 00:56:43.698 universal waste from non household entities. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6444-0 00:56:44.798 --> 00:56:47.198 They owe quarterly reports to the state. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6455-0 00:56:47.748 --> 00:56:53.348 And in dealing with transfer stations, especially over the past few years. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6475-0 00:56:54.188 --> 00:57:00.370 The the chronic concern that I've been hearing over and over again is chronic 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6475-1 00:57:00.370 --> 00:57:02.748 lack of staffing and turnover. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6512-0 00:57:04.638 --> 00:57:09.106 And so I don't have a solution for this, but I just wanted to put it out there 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6512-1 00:57:09.106 --> 00:57:13.631 that if we're going to make a requirement that the attendant has to examine and 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6512-2 00:57:13.631 --> 00:57:18.326 inspect the battery before accepting it, there can be a challenge to that because, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6512-3 00:57:18.326 --> 00:57:19.118 you know many. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6523-0 00:57:19.118 --> 00:57:23.038 Of these universal waste drop off areas at the transfer station. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6535-0 00:57:24.108 --> 00:57:28.068 Are often not manned because they don't have enough manpower to do so. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6560-0 00:57:29.558 --> 00:57:34.378 And I know I've dealt with many who are even overwhelmed at the scale house, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6560-1 00:57:34.378 --> 00:57:36.318 and it's a perennial challenge. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6569-0 00:57:36.318 --> 00:57:39.446 I'm not sure how we're going to meet that, but I just want to make that a 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6569-1 00:57:39.446 --> 00:57:40.038 consideration. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6576-0 00:58:02.148 --> 00:58:02.748 Isabel. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6585-0 00:58:05.028 --> 00:58:07.628 Hi, my name is Isabel Stevens. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6596-0 00:58:07.628 --> 00:58:09.948 I am with healthy communities of the capital area. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6618-0 00:58:09.948 --> 00:58:14.024 We're a public health nonprofit serving Pennsylvania, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6618-1 00:58:14.024 --> 00:58:19.988 so I'm not a battery expert and more to hear here to share my experience with. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6627-0 00:58:21.518 --> 00:58:24.718 A specific product which is E cigarettes. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6639-0 00:58:26.678 --> 00:58:29.754 And so, mostly from the perspective of my work 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6639-1 00:58:29.754 --> 00:58:31.718 with schools and young people. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6646-0 00:58:33.398 --> 00:58:34.918 So as a lot of you probably know. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6652-0 00:58:35.508 --> 00:58:38.028 The rise of disposable. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6677-0 00:58:39.518 --> 00:58:45.035 Phybes has been pretty rampant following the ban of flavored or the flavor ban on 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6677-1 00:58:45.035 --> 00:58:49.678 pod based products like Jewel, which had the rechargeable batteries. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6705-0 00:58:51.318 --> 00:58:56.748 And so we're hearing from a lot of the schools that they're collecting either 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6705-1 00:58:56.748 --> 00:58:59.950 through use, voluntarily giving them vapes or 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6705-2 00:58:59.950 --> 00:59:03.918 confiscation. They're collecting large numbers of vapes. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6724-0 00:59:04.668 --> 00:59:09.528 And they're feeling like there's no guidance on what they can do with these 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6724-1 00:59:09.528 --> 00:59:12.598 products. So they're ending up in the trash and 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6724-2 00:59:12.598 --> 00:59:14.708 things like that. Youth are also. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6745-0 00:59:15.368 --> 00:59:19.697 If they're disposing of them themselves, either putting them in the trash, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6745-1 00:59:19.697 --> 00:59:23.968 putting them in water or smashing them, which hearing the concerns about. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6752-0 00:59:25.438 --> 00:59:26.678 Fires from batteries. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6756-0 00:59:26.678 --> 00:59:30.478 It seems like that might not be the best route for them to go. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6775-0 00:59:33.118 --> 00:59:38.798 So I guess it's more of a a common and just a question of like what the current. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6781-0 00:59:40.398 --> 00:59:41.478 Conversation is around it. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6789-0 00:59:41.478 --> 00:59:45.198 I know Katie mentioned potentially a separate stewardess. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6815-0 00:59:45.828 --> 00:59:51.121 Stewardship program for E cigarettes, which I think seems like the best route 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6815-1 00:59:51.121 --> 00:59:55.668 due to their hazardous waste and plastic waste components as well. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6832-0 00:59:57.028 --> 01:00:03.668 But I've done some research and the only model I found is vape aware Colorado. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6845-0 01:00:04.348 --> 01:00:07.994 So at the state level, program that addresses safe handling in 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6845-1 01:00:07.994 --> 01:00:09.788 our recycling of vape products. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6874-0 01:00:11.318 --> 01:00:16.189 And they recommend it so that people aren't having to separate the vape into 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6874-1 01:00:16.189 --> 01:00:21.123 its separate components on their own, and then not being sure what to do with 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6874-2 01:00:21.123 --> 01:00:22.198 those components. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6879-0 01:00:22.518 --> 01:00:25.303 So yeah, I'd be interested in hearing kind of what 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6879-1 01:00:25.303 --> 01:00:25.958 the current. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6894-0 01:00:26.228 --> 01:00:31.137 Work is from your perspective. Since I don't know the battery side of 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6894-1 01:00:31.137 --> 01:00:31.908 this story. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6902-0 01:00:35.688 --> 01:00:36.528 Well, I guess so. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6907-0 01:00:36.598 --> 01:00:39.638 The current, I mean the current I guess. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6908-0 01:00:39.638 --> 01:00:40.358 Call it the current. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6910-0 01:00:41.848 --> 01:00:42.048 Standing. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6928-0 01:00:43.808 --> 01:00:49.088 Of vapes and batteries is that there was LD 1519 that. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6947-0 01:00:51.288 --> 01:00:56.771 Passed through the legislature, but which was a product stewardship 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6947-1 01:00:56.771 --> 01:01:01.448 program for vape, these vape devices e-cigarrete devices. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6952-0 01:01:02.968 --> 01:01:04.168 That did not get funded. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6955-0 01:01:05.848 --> 01:01:06.728 The appropriations. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6960-0 01:01:08.308 --> 01:01:09.708 Table but it would. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6972-0 01:01:11.488 --> 01:01:13.688 Get funded at the Appropriations Committee this year. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6991-0 01:01:13.688 --> 01:01:17.820 But it was tabled for consideration for next year. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6991-1 01:01:17.820 --> 01:01:23.248 I'm not sure what will happen with that. With that with that bill. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7013-0 01:01:24.768 --> 01:01:28.686 If it does make it through and gets passed, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7013-1 01:01:28.686 --> 01:01:34.208 then we'll have that program to implement. If it does not go. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7021-0 01:01:34.648 --> 01:01:37.808 If it doesn't get funded, it gets it dies. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7023-0 01:01:38.828 --> 01:01:39.668 Then. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7064-0 01:01:43.688 --> 01:01:48.995 Then the vape that are embedded batteries that have embedded batteries would be 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7064-1 01:01:48.995 --> 01:01:54.303 part of the evaluation that we mentioned earlier about products and how we deal 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7064-2 01:01:54.303 --> 01:01:59.544 with embedded batteries and those without those that have removable batteries. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7064-3 01:01:59.544 --> 01:02:02.728 The batteries themselves would then be part of. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7075-0 01:02:04.368 --> 01:02:09.688 The whatever battery program we have developed from this process. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7120-0 01:02:15.998 --> 01:02:21.737 Courtney Hafner with the department's. I'm also being the tech person today, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7120-1 01:02:21.737 --> 01:02:26.880 but just to add on to that, this topic is a complex one because it's 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7120-2 01:02:26.880 --> 01:02:32.993 not simply just talking about batteries and it's talking about embedded batteries 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7120-3 01:02:32.993 --> 01:02:34.558 and also a hazardous. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7126-0 01:02:35.328 --> 01:02:37.168 Substance. So this is going through. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7129-0 01:02:38.928 --> 01:02:39.568 Two different units. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7152-0 01:02:39.918 --> 01:02:45.337 And we'll have to look at this very carefully before deciding where they 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7152-1 01:02:45.337 --> 01:02:49.198 belong in these proxy programs or in existing ones. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7158-0 01:02:53.508 --> 01:02:55.348 Thank you both for sharing that. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7177-0 01:02:55.348 --> 01:03:00.890 I'm just curious as schools are coming to me for advice on what to do with products 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7177-1 01:03:00.890 --> 01:03:01.748 at this time. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7181-0 01:03:01.748 --> 01:03:03.108 Is there a best practice? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7186-0 01:03:04.648 --> 01:03:06.128 Until something better comes along. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7190-0 01:03:07.418 --> 01:03:08.098 Yeah, I guess. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7196-0 01:03:08.098 --> 01:03:12.347 Why? Why don't you reach out to us off the 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7196-1 01:03:12.347 --> 01:03:13.138 meeting? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7214-0 01:03:14.888 --> 01:03:19.805 And we'll provide you with kind of what we what we're looking at right now as 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7214-1 01:03:19.805 --> 01:03:20.688 best practice. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7219-0 01:03:24.028 --> 01:03:25.028 All right, I'll do that. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7220-0 01:03:25.028 --> 01:03:25.628 I appreciate it. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7221-0 01:03:26.398 --> 01:03:26.918 All right. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7222-0 01:03:33.828 --> 01:03:34.188 OK. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7226-0 01:03:38.228 --> 01:03:39.588 Don't see any hands over here. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7228-0 01:03:39.588 --> 01:03:40.628 No hands there. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7230-0 01:03:42.288 --> 01:03:42.528 Anyone. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7235-0 01:03:45.968 --> 01:03:47.448 Any other comments? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7238-0 01:03:49.478 --> 01:03:51.638 Questions. Suggestions. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7240-0 01:03:57.548 --> 01:03:58.228 Internally. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7256-0 01:03:59.888 --> 01:04:03.353 No, I I I I echo what Redwood said in that we 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7256-1 01:04:03.353 --> 01:04:06.968 you know this be open to independent recyclers. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7264-0 01:04:08.648 --> 01:04:11.008 And for profit, not just nonprofit. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7267-0 01:04:15.028 --> 01:04:15.308 I know. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7291-0 01:04:15.308 --> 01:04:19.686 I actually had a clarifying 'cause I know we've talked about that. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7291-1 01:04:19.686 --> 01:04:23.868 This is one of many drafts that we're gonna have to go through. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7292-0 01:04:23.988 --> 01:04:25.308 Do we know yet? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7310-0 01:04:25.308 --> 01:04:32.378 A year that we're gonna like, bring this up to legislation to be like 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7310-1 01:04:32.378 --> 01:04:33.388 this year. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7317-0 01:04:33.788 --> 01:04:39.788 So like we were like 25 or yeah so. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7324-0 01:04:39.788 --> 01:04:43.128 So just as a so to go over the process again. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7341-0 01:04:43.638 --> 01:04:49.238 In our in our product stewardship report for January of 25, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7341-1 01:04:49.238 --> 01:04:51.478 we identified batteries. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7358-0 01:04:53.008 --> 01:04:59.421 As a product that should be evaluated to have its program updated because 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7358-1 01:04:59.421 --> 01:05:00.288 currently. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7362-0 01:05:02.008 --> 01:05:03.008 The program we. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7375-0 01:05:05.088 --> 01:05:08.502 Have limits is limited, legislatively limited by the chemistry 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7375-1 01:05:08.502 --> 01:05:10.128 and by rechargeable batteries. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7388-0 01:05:11.258 --> 01:05:15.098 Which is is severely out of date. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7399-0 01:05:16.298 --> 01:05:21.182 And so that's kind of what started us down this road of of trying to update 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7399-1 01:05:21.182 --> 01:05:22.018 that program. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7422-0 01:05:24.048 --> 01:05:31.752 And then I can't remember the LD number, but there was a there was a a bill put in 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7422-1 01:05:31.752 --> 01:05:33.608 that did two things. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7425-0 01:05:35.288 --> 01:05:35.648 It banned. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7432-0 01:05:39.288 --> 01:05:41.128 Disposable vaping devices. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7434-0 01:05:42.438 --> 01:05:43.198 And. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7440-0 01:05:44.688 --> 01:05:46.528 Asked us to look into. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7461-0 01:05:48.128 --> 01:05:53.326 Updating the battery stewardship program and how vait products might fit into that 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7461-1 01:05:53.326 --> 01:05:54.328 type of program. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7492-0 01:05:54.648 --> 01:06:01.249 So we are kind of doing because of the we already and so we're doing kind of that 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7492-1 01:06:01.249 --> 01:06:07.448 what that bill is required in this in what we're putting together right now. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7497-0 01:06:07.488 --> 01:06:10.128 So our goal here is to try and develop. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7500-0 01:06:10.478 --> 01:06:12.638 Language for. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7518-0 01:06:14.488 --> 01:06:22.041 Inclusion in the product stewardship report that'll be published in January of 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7518-1 01:06:22.041 --> 01:06:22.328 26. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7536-0 01:06:23.968 --> 01:06:29.541 Will include language from what we've heard from these meetings for updating 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7536-1 01:06:29.541 --> 01:06:31.568 our current battery program. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7550-0 01:06:33.248 --> 01:06:39.528 And as a reminder, the way that process works is we would. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7555-0 01:06:40.558 --> 01:06:42.718 We we put, we publish the. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7564-0 01:06:44.248 --> 01:06:47.008 Product stewardship report in January and it's actually. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7602-0 01:06:48.688 --> 01:06:52.476 And then it's, it's out for public comment for a for a 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7602-1 01:06:52.476 --> 01:06:57.711 month's period of time during which anyone can provide comments to anything 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7602-2 01:06:57.711 --> 01:07:01.362 in the report. And we take those comments and attach 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7602-3 01:07:01.362 --> 01:07:06.528 them to the report as the final report that we present to the main legisl. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7612-0 01:07:07.208 --> 01:07:11.008 And then they have the option to act upon that report. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7616-0 01:07:11.358 --> 01:07:14.478 For and, I believe the. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7671-0 01:07:16.008 --> 01:07:21.611 Legislation you're talking about is LD754 for the band of single use disposable 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7671-1 01:07:21.611 --> 01:07:26.584 vapes and the EPR plan for batteries and electronic waste and LD 1519, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7671-2 01:07:26.584 --> 01:07:32.117 which focuses on requiring a stewardship program for end of life management of 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7671-3 01:07:32.117 --> 01:07:33.168 these products. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7679-0 01:07:33.168 --> 01:07:36.088 Right, 15/19 was the one I had mentioned that. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7690-0 01:07:37.768 --> 01:07:40.888 Did pass and and did not get funded on the appropriations. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7700-0 01:07:42.078 --> 01:07:46.278 What's the forecast? 750-4754 was tabled. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7721-0 01:07:48.768 --> 01:07:54.051 My understanding was tabled, but we we basically said we were going to 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7721-1 01:07:54.051 --> 01:07:58.888 include the what the sponsor had wanted in what we're doing now. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7757-0 01:08:05.518 --> 01:08:10.218 I think it's important to also, as you look at things like this to just 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7757-1 01:08:10.218 --> 01:08:15.309 look outside the box when it comes to collection in infrastructure to some of 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7757-2 01:08:15.309 --> 01:08:20.662 the programs that have successfully over the last few years been implemented that 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7757-3 01:08:20.662 --> 01:08:23.208 these folks are doing a great job when. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7784-0 01:08:23.208 --> 01:08:27.572 It comes to radius in you know area and logistics like I forget the name of them 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7784-1 01:08:27.572 --> 01:08:29.728 now, but folks that are doing the close 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7784-2 01:08:29.728 --> 01:08:31.398 collection that have put stuff. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7797-0 01:08:32.168 --> 01:08:34.530 All over, they usually had all the conferences and 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7797-1 01:08:34.530 --> 01:08:36.568 they're redoing the clothes or making rags. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7813-0 01:08:37.558 --> 01:08:41.985 Oh, OK. But also, you know, like, like, these folks are collecting at all the 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7813-1 01:08:41.985 --> 01:08:44.198 transfer stations and also paying care. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7850-0 01:08:44.318 --> 01:08:49.258 Paying care does it very successful job at when it comes to logistics and and and 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7850-1 01:08:49.258 --> 01:08:53.536 collection like those folks. These guys obviously are paying attention 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7850-2 01:08:53.536 --> 01:08:57.512 is, but those folks might not. But once this is out there they're 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7850-3 01:08:57.512 --> 01:09:01.248 they're very good at at they've been very successful at what? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7860-0 01:09:01.248 --> 01:09:05.358 You know on on working radius areas and collection points. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7886-0 01:09:05.798 --> 01:09:10.538 If I can't add to that real quick, the only thing we are concerned about is 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7886-1 01:09:10.538 --> 01:09:13.158 with retailers and certain drop off sites. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7907-0 01:09:13.198 --> 01:09:16.618 That is ideal, but with transfer stations we do have to 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7907-1 01:09:16.618 --> 01:09:21.200 be careful because just because my leg I might be 10 miles from my nearest 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7907-2 01:09:21.200 --> 01:09:22.238 transfer station. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7916-0 01:09:22.238 --> 01:09:26.798 But if it's not located technically in my town, then I can't really use that. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7923-0 01:09:26.798 --> 01:09:29.398 So we are thinking about that, right? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7925-0 01:09:29.398 --> 01:09:30.478 Yeah. We then actually. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7938-0 01:09:31.408 --> 01:09:34.468 The the you'll see the convenience. I call it a convenience standard, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7938-1 01:09:34.468 --> 01:09:35.168 the convenience. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7943-0 01:09:36.078 --> 01:09:38.398 Goal kind of like tries to. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7981-0 01:09:39.518 --> 01:09:44.156 Put in in in a basic. It kind of like builds on on that 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7981-1 01:09:44.156 --> 01:09:50.699 standard products stewardship goal of 95% of the population within 15 minutes. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7981-2 01:09:50.699 --> 01:09:56.828 And then we try to include like in addition to that transfer stations and 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7981-3 01:09:56.828 --> 01:10:00.638 knowing and as Courtney said because I might. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7990-0 01:10:00.638 --> 01:10:03.358 Not be able to use the transfer station, you know. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8001-0 01:10:04.728 --> 01:10:08.508 Then other potential avenues for collection, such as retailers or a town, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8001-1 01:10:08.508 --> 01:10:08.968 may have. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8035-0 01:10:09.678 --> 01:10:13.960 May wish to have a collection point someplace other than the transfer station. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8035-1 01:10:13.960 --> 01:10:18.133 If they don't have a transfer station. I know there was one comment somebody 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8035-2 01:10:18.133 --> 01:10:22.523 said that you know a fire station might make an appropriate appropriate spot for 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8035-3 01:10:22.523 --> 01:10:23.878 a battery location point. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8061-0 01:10:23.878 --> 01:10:28.531 So that's actually, I mean, so I'll be honest, I'll just say any, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8061-1 01:10:28.531 --> 01:10:33.818 if people can look at what we've put out there and if they have, you know, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8061-2 01:10:33.818 --> 01:10:35.158 comments good, bad. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8068-0 01:10:36.008 --> 01:10:38.368 Ugly regarding what we've proposed. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8082-0 01:10:39.758 --> 01:10:42.675 You know, please feel free to let us know how you 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8082-1 01:10:42.675 --> 01:10:43.958 your comments on that. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8085-0 01:10:45.628 --> 01:10:47.748 Mark has his hand up Mark. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8093-0 01:10:48.728 --> 01:10:50.208 Hey Brian. Thanks. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8108-0 01:10:50.248 --> 01:10:52.704 So yeah, Mark Draper on the solid waste director 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8108-1 01:10:52.704 --> 01:10:54.208 for Aroostook Waste Solutions. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8122-0 01:10:54.248 --> 01:10:57.928 We run a landfill and a transfer station in Aroostook County. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8158-0 01:10:57.928 --> 01:11:02.010 So you just touched on, I guess what I was going to say. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8158-1 01:11:02.010 --> 01:11:06.235 One is you know, am happy to see that convenience standard 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8158-2 01:11:06.235 --> 01:11:10.532 95% within 15 miles. And I think I was the one maybe others 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8158-3 01:11:10.532 --> 01:11:16.118 have suggested using fire stations if possible, but that's obviously another. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8162-0 01:11:16.878 --> 01:11:17.518 Whole group of entities. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8168-0 01:11:18.028 --> 01:11:20.188 That need to be involved to make that happen. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8204-0 01:11:21.678 --> 01:11:26.358 The other thing I just wanted to touch on real quick was I am happy to see that you 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8204-1 01:11:26.358 --> 01:11:28.643 know, we're gonna try to move forward as 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8204-2 01:11:28.643 --> 01:11:32.989 quickly as we can with as many batteries as possible and looking at obviously 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8204-3 01:11:32.989 --> 01:11:35.998 embedded batteries, which is gonna be a problem, but. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8210-0 01:11:35.998 --> 01:11:37.518 It's gonna take longer to solve. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8229-0 01:11:37.998 --> 01:11:41.954 I like the approach that the department took to hopefully put something in the 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8229-1 01:11:41.954 --> 01:11:44.958 legislation that will lead to that happening down the line. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8233-0 01:11:46.638 --> 01:11:47.918 The only other couple things is. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8270-0 01:11:48.108 --> 01:11:52.825 As I see, you know, July 2027, obviously I realize that things take time 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8270-1 01:11:52.825 --> 01:11:57.542 to get through the legislative and rulemaking process, but the you know, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8270-2 01:11:57.542 --> 01:12:02.388 as as Mike and others can probably attest, this is a problem for us today. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8287-0 01:12:02.468 --> 01:12:06.683 And I I realize it's going to take time, but in any opportunity to make it as 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8287-1 01:12:06.683 --> 01:12:09.548 quick as possible, we would certainly appreciate it. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8296-0 01:12:10.148 --> 01:12:13.308 And I did my last question. I think you just answered it, Brian is. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8301-0 01:12:14.278 --> 01:12:14.638 So I just. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8307-0 01:12:14.638 --> 01:12:15.998 I just got a chance to look at this. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8312-0 01:12:15.998 --> 01:12:18.478 Are you are the department going to take written comments? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8324-0 01:12:19.188 --> 01:12:22.628 On this draft as well, for some period of time. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8341-0 01:12:22.908 --> 01:12:25.948 Yes, yes, we will. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8329-0 01:12:24.198 --> 01:12:24.358 OK. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8337-0 01:12:25.918 --> 01:12:26.878 Is there a deadline or? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8342-0 01:12:25.988 --> 01:12:26.428 I'd like. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8346-0 01:12:28.468 --> 01:12:30.988 I'd like to say two weeks. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8347-0 01:12:31.508 --> 01:12:31.868 OK. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8376-0 01:12:32.438 --> 01:12:37.531 I'll reiterate this in an e-mail that I'm going to send after the transcript is 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8376-1 01:12:37.531 --> 01:12:41.478 available for viewing, and I'll reiterate all these timelines 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8376-2 01:12:41.478 --> 01:12:44.598 for comments for the DEP battery, e-mail, right. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8380-0 01:12:44.958 --> 01:12:46.318 Yeah. I mean, we'd like to. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8399-0 01:12:46.558 --> 01:12:49.959 Just because of the calendar coming up, you know if we need to get something into 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8399-1 01:12:49.959 --> 01:12:52.198 the report, I need to kind of have the report itself. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8404-0 01:12:52.548 --> 01:12:55.028 Wrapped up in December. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8416-0 01:12:56.758 --> 01:12:57.878 And December's not that far away. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8421-0 01:12:57.878 --> 01:13:01.478 And then two weeks the same time EPR is due to. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8425-0 01:13:03.238 --> 01:13:04.598 Probably, yeah. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8429-0 01:13:04.598 --> 01:13:05.278 Yeah, I don't know. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8458-0 01:13:05.318 --> 01:13:09.074 I think no. I think well, we only have a month left to get 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8458-1 01:13:09.074 --> 01:13:12.385 everything done, but APR is actually, I mean, yeah, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8458-2 01:13:12.385 --> 01:13:17.096 so this is well then we're dropping bodily redemption as well in a couple 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8458-3 01:13:17.096 --> 01:13:17.478 weeks. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8463-0 01:13:17.478 --> 01:13:20.598 So yeah, we've got a bunch of, yeah, stuff up there. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8467-0 01:13:21.708 --> 01:13:22.668 Thank. Thank you for that. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8469-0 01:13:23.368 --> 01:13:24.288 Sure, mark. Thanks. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8470-0 01:13:29.828 --> 01:13:30.388 So. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8474-0 01:13:32.278 --> 01:13:33.598 Anything else from in the room? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8483-0 01:13:35.118 --> 01:13:36.398 I'm on the tail end of this thing. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8496-0 01:13:36.398 --> 01:13:41.918 I didn't attend the August 12th meeting, so I'm kind of playing catch up right now. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8518-0 01:13:41.918 --> 01:13:44.628 Sure. We do have both a transcript and the 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8518-1 01:13:44.628 --> 01:13:49.795 meeting itself available on our website if anybody wants to refresh themselves to 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8518-2 01:13:49.795 --> 01:13:51.118 the first one, great. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8520-0 01:13:51.118 --> 01:13:52.318 Yeah. Welcome both. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8522-0 01:13:53.918 --> 01:13:54.238 It'll be great. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8536-0 01:13:55.918 --> 01:14:00.668 But yeah, I am gonna reiterate, you know, we're we are definitely keeping an open 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8536-1 01:14:00.668 --> 01:14:00.958 mind. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8540-0 01:14:01.588 --> 01:14:03.708 You want to hear what people have to say. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8549-0 01:14:05.438 --> 01:14:09.318 As they always say, the devil is in the details. So. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8562-0 01:14:10.958 --> 01:14:14.398 If if if you have comments and as detailed as possible regarding. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8587-0 01:14:16.998 --> 01:14:22.137 These issues that would be great. I know our biggest comments that we've 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8587-1 01:14:22.137 --> 01:14:26.572 gotten that we are looking at really carefully is convenience, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8587-2 01:14:26.572 --> 01:14:29.318 trying to make this free to the public. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8609-0 01:14:30.138 --> 01:14:36.168 And keeping a special eye out for Evie and embedded batteries because they are 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8609-1 01:14:36.168 --> 01:14:40.138 going to be their own beast and we understand that. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8636-0 01:14:40.138 --> 01:14:42.405 Yeah, I mean some ways we're kind of with 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8636-1 01:14:42.405 --> 01:14:45.915 attacking what I'm what I'm referring to is the loose batteries, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8636-2 01:14:45.915 --> 01:14:48.938 the removable rechargeables, and the primary batteries. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8644-0 01:14:48.978 --> 01:14:55.058 It's somewhat we're gonna try and make go after the low hanging fruit first. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8651-0 01:14:55.758 --> 01:14:58.878 And and then have the have the. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8656-0 01:14:59.668 --> 01:15:01.828 Language in the in the bill. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8658-0 01:15:04.428 --> 01:15:05.508 Go towards. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8670-0 01:15:07.278 --> 01:15:10.478 Moving us towards including those other more troublesome items. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8687-0 01:15:10.478 --> 01:15:14.459 But I do want to get them involved included, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8687-1 01:15:14.459 --> 01:15:19.678 so again any kind of any comments towards that as well so. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8691-0 01:15:25.178 --> 01:15:26.778 We have got Ashley Ashley. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8699-0 01:15:28.698 --> 01:15:31.458 I love the way you said that. I feel like on a stage. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8741-0 01:15:33.118 --> 01:15:38.272 One comment on the EV batteries, so I I appreciate that you all are are 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8741-1 01:15:38.272 --> 01:15:44.143 coming to this in a comprehensive manner and and and really trying to do right by 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8741-2 01:15:44.143 --> 01:15:47.078 safety as you should as the top priority. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8760-0 01:15:47.478 --> 01:15:52.015 One comment on EV batteries is that, as you may already know, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8760-1 01:15:52.015 --> 01:15:57.358 and apologies if I said this in the first meeting, but EV batteries are. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8783-0 01:15:58.068 --> 01:16:02.715 Are very different from small and mid format batteries, both in. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8783-1 01:16:02.715 --> 01:16:08.148 Obviously their size and their weight, but their recycling streams as well. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8801-0 01:16:08.748 --> 01:16:12.281 EV batteries are not, you know, a consumer isn't just dropping off an EV 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8801-1 01:16:12.281 --> 01:16:14.508 battery on the side of the road, necessarily. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8806-0 01:16:14.508 --> 01:16:16.148 They weigh hundreds of pounds. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8828-0 01:16:16.148 --> 01:16:20.677 It takes a trained professional to remove an EV battery from the the bottom of a 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8828-1 01:16:20.677 --> 01:16:24.256 vehicle, and they're handled, handled by licensed professionals 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8828-2 01:16:24.256 --> 01:16:26.828 throughout their lifetime as they go through. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8847-0 01:16:27.228 --> 01:16:30.956 The auto recycling process and then downstream to battery recyclers such as 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8847-1 01:16:30.956 --> 01:16:31.348 Redwood. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8884-0 01:16:31.348 --> 01:16:34.908 So we work very closely on EV battery recycling policy. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8884-1 01:16:34.908 --> 01:16:38.469 We worked very closely in in California and New Jersey, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8884-2 01:16:38.469 --> 01:16:43.428 which is the only state in the country that has an EV battery management law. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8908-0 01:16:43.548 --> 01:16:47.808 So happy anytime to give some more information on that and some of the 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8908-1 01:16:47.808 --> 01:16:52.188 lessons learned and best practices. But just wanting to make sure you're 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8908-2 01:16:52.188 --> 01:16:56.628 clear that a battery management recycling program for consumer batteries. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8921-0 01:16:57.308 --> 01:17:01.274 In our opinion, should be much different than a recycling 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8921-1 01:17:01.274 --> 01:17:03.668 law for electric vehicle batteries. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8933-0 01:17:04.258 --> 01:17:06.898 Right. And I think I'll throw on that too. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8943-0 01:17:07.458 --> 01:17:12.818 We mentioned in the straw man household power batteries. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8958-0 01:17:12.818 --> 01:17:16.909 I'm not that up to date, but I do believe that's becoming a thing 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8958-1 01:17:16.909 --> 01:17:19.698 now or instead of people, whether they have. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8966-0 01:17:22.518 --> 01:17:24.158 A solar solar array. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8977-0 01:17:24.158 --> 01:17:28.278 Then they'll have a storage battery, or even my understanding now is that. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/8983-0 01:17:30.998 --> 01:17:33.238 That residents, instead of getting. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9000-0 01:17:33.668 --> 01:17:38.826 A generator system will have a battery storage system that can power their 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9000-1 01:17:38.826 --> 01:17:41.508 household for a couple of hours or not. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9009-0 01:17:41.508 --> 01:17:43.948 Let's say Rob can tell us for a couple days. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9020-0 01:17:43.948 --> 01:17:46.961 And so we do, yeah, believe that those are kind of, yeah, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9020-1 01:17:46.961 --> 01:17:48.468 that is a bit of a different. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9044-0 01:17:50.038 --> 01:17:55.363 Beast, as opposed to consumer batteries. But that being said, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9044-1 01:17:55.363 --> 01:18:01.118 I will say I have seen YouTube videos that show you how to how to. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9049-0 01:18:02.718 --> 01:18:04.318 How to replace your battery your batteries? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9051-0 01:18:04.588 --> 01:18:05.148 In a Prius. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9094-0 01:18:07.278 --> 01:18:11.952 Right. And you know, and we do know too that in terms of like 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9094-1 01:18:11.952 --> 01:18:16.023 the hustle power, you know, hustle, power, batteries, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9094-2 01:18:16.023 --> 01:18:20.772 we wanna make sure that there is some type of system in place. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9094-3 01:18:20.772 --> 01:18:24.466 So that over the course of years that batteries, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9094-4 01:18:24.466 --> 01:18:26.878 those type of batteries are act. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9107-0 01:18:27.278 --> 01:18:31.838 Dealt with and recycled as opposed to just constantly get. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9111-0 01:18:32.838 --> 01:18:33.958 Stockpiled. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9118-0 01:18:34.388 --> 01:18:37.508 In someone's house, when they get a new one, so. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9125-0 01:18:39.158 --> 01:18:41.798 But yeah, so that's kind of the way we're thinking. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9129-0 01:18:44.708 --> 01:18:45.348 Thank you. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9135-0 01:18:44.858 --> 01:18:48.298 No YouTube tutorials for transfer stations. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9160-0 01:18:49.598 --> 01:18:52.539 And and really quickly too, just so you know, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9139-0 01:18:49.678 --> 01:18:49.798 Wow. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9160-1 01:18:52.539 --> 01:18:57.591 there's there is some differences between a hybrid battery and a fully plug in 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9160-2 01:18:57.591 --> 01:18:58.678 electric vehicle. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9195-0 01:18:58.678 --> 01:19:01.239 There can be differences in the size of the battery, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9195-1 01:19:01.239 --> 01:19:04.283 so not I'm not surprised to hear that about the Prius comment, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9195-2 01:19:04.283 --> 01:19:08.100 but there there are much larger batteries that are a much more difficult for a 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9195-3 01:19:08.100 --> 01:19:10.758 consumer unless they had specialty professional tools. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9199-0 01:19:10.758 --> 01:19:13.238 But thank you for your response. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9232-0 01:19:13.688 --> 01:19:17.619 Right. I mean I guess that does show the how the 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9232-1 01:19:17.619 --> 01:19:23.716 devil is in the details and you know we need if if if we don't make this as 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9232-2 01:19:23.716 --> 01:19:28.048 comprehensive as possible, then there will always be. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9234-0 01:19:29.508 --> 01:19:30.708 Loopholes that. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9238-0 01:19:33.838 --> 01:19:34.598 That for. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9269-0 01:19:34.758 --> 01:19:39.747 For situations that that aren't covered and we wanna try and make this as 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9269-1 01:19:39.747 --> 01:19:43.860 comprehensive as possible, not necessarily have a system for 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9269-2 01:19:43.860 --> 01:19:47.501 everything, but have everything addressed in a manner 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9269-3 01:19:47.501 --> 01:19:47.838 that. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9275-0 01:19:49.758 --> 01:19:51.678 Will eventually get to that point. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9278-0 01:19:51.878 --> 01:19:52.958 Absolutely, yeah. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9294-0 01:19:52.998 --> 01:19:56.776 I mean, like I said, we've we've got a number of product 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9294-1 01:19:56.776 --> 01:19:59.958 stewardship programs and we bottle redemptions. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9309-0 01:20:00.268 --> 01:20:04.581 The perfect example devils in details. You would think that would be pretty 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9309-1 01:20:04.581 --> 01:20:06.908 simple, but it's quite complicated, yeah. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9322-0 01:20:10.428 --> 01:20:15.628 Again, and then that reiterates my, we are welcome, any and all comments. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9329-0 01:20:23.388 --> 01:20:24.828 So yeah, so I guess so. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9351-0 01:20:24.828 --> 01:20:29.118 Courtney, you'll, I'm assuming everybody here in the 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9351-1 01:20:29.118 --> 01:20:35.028 meeting has has responded to us and we have their emails 'cause we will. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9380-0 01:20:35.308 --> 01:20:39.670 We've reached a point where we're not going to be sending out mass newsletters 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9380-1 01:20:39.670 --> 01:20:42.320 to everyone. We're just going to be sending out 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9380-2 01:20:42.320 --> 01:20:46.461 targeted information to those who sent us their emails and told us they're 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9380-3 01:20:46.461 --> 01:20:47.068 interested. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9394-0 01:20:48.058 --> 01:20:54.738 So we'll follow up with a link to the transcripts and the meeting. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9403-0 01:20:56.148 --> 01:20:58.628 The due date for the comments due date for the comments. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9405-0 01:21:01.228 --> 01:21:01.868 And. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9430-0 01:21:01.948 --> 01:21:06.388 And if anybody else thinks of anything within the next day, they'd wanna they. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9430-1 01:21:06.388 --> 01:21:10.828 They'd want information on. What's that? One will try to include that as well. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9437-0 01:21:13.188 --> 01:21:16.628 If we have questions, can we contact you? 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9447-0 01:21:17.218 --> 01:21:20.698 Yes, yeah. If you can use the DEP battery. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9461-0 01:21:20.698 --> 01:21:24.205 Yeah, e-mail like. Please send all your questions there just 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9461-1 01:21:24.205 --> 01:21:26.218 so we can have everything compiled. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9463-0 01:21:26.258 --> 01:21:27.498 OK, nice and neat. Yeah. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9484-0 01:21:29.028 --> 01:21:32.596 Just 'cause I know the cat is not available. Jennifer, 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9484-1 01:21:32.596 --> 01:21:37.268 I can give you Ashley's e-mail after this. Just so you two can connect. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9486-0 01:21:38.868 --> 01:21:39.028 Yeah. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9497-0 01:21:41.938 --> 01:21:45.658 And I wrote down Isabella's so we should be good. Oh, great. Thank you. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9499-0 01:21:47.308 --> 01:21:47.948 All right. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9507-0 01:21:47.948 --> 01:21:50.148 Well, I guess that will wrap us up. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9514-0 01:21:50.148 --> 01:21:52.948 I appreciate everyone's participation. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9523-0 01:21:57.428 --> 01:21:58.108 Thank you. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9527-0 01:21:58.928 --> 01:21:59.608 Thank you. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9529-0 01:21:59.068 --> 01:21:59.668 Thank you. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9533-0 01:21:59.828 --> 01:22:00.788 Thank you. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9536-0 01:22:00.908 --> 01:22:01.548 Thank you. 80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/9541-0 01:22:01.788 --> 01:22:02.348 Thank you.