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Well, I want to thank everyone.
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For jumping in and attending this.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/693-0
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Meeting. It's. Yeah.
Next the the second meeting of the stake
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for I'll call it stakeholders meeting for.
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The battery for up updating means.
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Battery stewardship program.
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We.
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'Ve taken some of the.
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Take some of the comments that we've or
some of the discussion points that we
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heard during the first meeting and some
of the comments that were received.
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By via e-mail and we've tried to come up
with what we consider a big picture straw
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man conceptual idea for.
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For the direction for going from the the
update to the program.
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We've mailed that out yesterday to
everyone that we believe was on the list
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and I guess so this would be the this
meeting we're looking to see for any
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input.
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On on really things they heard in the
first meeting.
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Any other input?
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On what may have what we put out last
week not last week, yesterday,
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sorry or any kind of additional thoughts
regarding.
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Updating the battery program.
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These the plan that we put out.
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Was a little.
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Was a little basic in terms of things
such as.
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The covered products.
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A little.
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A little more specifics regarding.
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Drop the reporting requirements for the
PR OS and.
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Conveniences for for pick ups and stuff.
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I guess I don't feel the need for
everybody to go around and introduce
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themselves, but if you do,
if you we do ask that if someone says
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speaks to please state your name and and
the organization you represent.
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And and we are recording this as well.
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We'll have the recording and transcript
available couple of days after the
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meeting itself.
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So.
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I'll start that off by saying does anyone
have any?
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Any comments they'd like to start us off
with?
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Oh, got wonderfully world of the Internet.
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That would be Ashley.
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Ashley, you have a four.
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Oh, hi.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/988-0
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Yes, apologies.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/995-0
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Were you asking for virtual folks or
folks from the room first?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1002-0
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It doesn't matter.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1004-0
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We'll we'll lay it open to the floor.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1008-0
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Awesome. OK.
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Well, I'll.
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There's only just,
so let people know how many is totally in
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virtual world 27.
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We have 27 in the virtual world.
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And.
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About six of us,
six of us here in the real world,
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so to speak.
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So it's a pretty small number.
So we'll just kind of leave it open as
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people wish to to participate.
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OK.
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Well, I'm happy to take a pause.
If anybody sitting at the table in person
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wants to speak first.
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Now go for it, Ashley.
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OK, great.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1083-0
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Well,
thank you again for hosting this meeting.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1102-0
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I am representing Redwood materials and I
believe my colleague Tricia is on the
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call as well.
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She's also with Redwood materials.
And thank you for sending over the draft
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recommendations.
Our team reviewed it yesterday.
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I have a couple questions and I'll
sprinkle them throughout the call.
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So I don't steal the mic for too long
here.
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But my first question and biggest
reaction to the recommendations thus far.
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Is that we had a pretty robust
conversation around independent battery
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collection during our last meeting,
but I unfortunately did not see anything
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concerning that in the recommendations
that were sent out.
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I was wondering if we could have a little
bit more of a conversation around that
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and thoughts about it.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1191-0
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Yeah, we could.
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So if you wanna. Yeah, I mean we've any.
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What are your thoughts on on that?
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Yeah.
So my thoughts on that is that
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independent battery collection should be
allowed, like I said in our last call,
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Redwood Materials were not only a
recycler of batteries were battery
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recycler world.
So a collector of batteries and we offer
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free battery collection for programs
across the country.
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For the public,
which includes events and then we have a
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bin that we collect batteries in as well.
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A lot of these programs to date will
allow.
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One dependent collection and they have a
specific provision about independent
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collection in the EPR program,
but they'll often say that the batteries
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have to be forfeited to a battery
stewardship organization.
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So I'm really just looking for some
clarity and and thoughts on how you all
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are feeling because we would prefer
obviously to not forfeit the batteries
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that we're collecting on our own dime and
we are more than happy to provide any.
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Data to the state that's needed on the
batteries that we collect,
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register with the state as we normally
would do.
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Or any other standards that we need to
meet, but that's where we're coming from.
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All right.
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How would you?
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I guess so.
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How would you see your interaction with?
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The the pros that are operating.
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Ourselves as a compliment to the pros.
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And we're just aiding and increased
battery collection.
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So as long as the PRO's in the state is
getting data and they have transparency
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on where those batteries are going and
how many are collected,
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we really see it as a a win win situation.
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Ashley,
is there anyone who would like to follow
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up?
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Yes, sure.
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Have a question from the room when she?
When, Ashley. When you mentioned Ben's.
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Like,
we represent a lot of transfer stations.
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When you mentioned bins,
what's a collection bin like?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1521-0
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Oh, I'm sorry.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1529-0
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Oh, I'm sorry. My name's Michael Carroll.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1536-0
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I'm the executive director for municipal
Waste hub.
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We represent 115 communities for the
municipal solid waste.
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Nice to meet you, Michael.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1564-0
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Well,
actually we're we're lucky for this call
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1564-1
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because I do have my colleague Trisha on
the line.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1587-0
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Who is the expert in our consumer battery
collection program so she can explain a
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little bit more detail about our bins and
how our process works?
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I guess that's my cue.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1598-0
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Yes, good morning.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1602-0
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Yes, from my side.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1635-0
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I'm out in Nevada,
so perhaps it's good afternoon for you
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guys,
but we do have a variety of different
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collection bins that we use as we're
evolving to make sure that each one is a
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safer and safer version. So we have.
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A.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1672-0
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Currently,
a metal bin that houses an A vaccine box
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1672-1
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that has a fire retardant spray inside
that allows a collection of up to roughly
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50 lbs of.
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Mixed material before it's shipped out
via UPS straight to our facility.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1696-0
00:19:51.138 --> 00:19:55.778
So that means that no collection sites
accumulates too much at anyone time.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1713-0
00:19:56.258 --> 00:20:01.458
We are introducing as a pilot program in
Nevada, our next generation,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1713-1
00:20:01.458 --> 00:20:03.018
which is a smart bin.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1729-0
00:20:03.018 --> 00:20:07.416
It's actually Wi-Fi enabled where we're
able to track it with sensors on how full
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1729-1
00:20:07.416 --> 00:20:07.738
it is.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1730-0
00:20:08.738 --> 00:20:09.898
Temperature readings.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1739-0
00:20:10.218 --> 00:20:12.778
There's kind of an automatic shut off so
people can't add stuff.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1757-0
00:20:12.778 --> 00:20:15.812
But again,
it's gonna have a special permit for a
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1757-1
00:20:15.812 --> 00:20:19.818
larger volume of mixed material without
sorting and other things.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1771-0
00:20:19.888 --> 00:20:22.755
So again,
trying to increase the convenience for
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1771-1
00:20:22.755 --> 00:20:26.208
the consumers to drop off will also
increasing the safety.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1775-0
00:20:27.658 --> 00:20:28.098
Layers to it.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1777-0
00:20:32.458 --> 00:20:33.258
Thank you.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1794-0
00:20:37.898 --> 00:20:41.098
And quickly,
just to under score once more,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1794-1
00:20:41.098 --> 00:20:45.898
independent collectors are not battery
stewardship organizations.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1798-0
00:20:45.938 --> 00:20:46.338
I don't.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1802-0
00:20:46.338 --> 00:20:47.778
That is a follow-up question.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1820-0
00:20:47.778 --> 00:20:52.458
I'd love to ask later to understand if
you're looking for battery stewardship
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1820-1
00:20:52.458 --> 00:20:55.458
organizations to be limited to nonprofits
or not.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1837-0
00:20:55.898 --> 00:20:58.789
So I can put a pin in that question for
now,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1837-1
00:20:58.789 --> 00:21:02.258
but independent collectors are really
just recyclers.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1848-0
00:21:03.138 --> 00:21:06.458
And and folks that work with recyclers
that are already doing this work.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1855-0
00:21:07.088 --> 00:21:09.008
Looking to continue to do this work.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1878-0
00:21:10.538 --> 00:21:15.386
And you know all in the same the same
benefit of Ed Golds that the BSO's and
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1878-1
00:21:15.386 --> 00:21:17.778
the state have to increase collection.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1885-0
00:21:17.778 --> 00:21:22.298
So it's really just an add to increase
collection, it's not.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1896-0
00:21:23.898 --> 00:21:25.578
A whole program similar to a BSO.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1898-0
00:21:25.578 --> 00:21:27.338
We're just a a complementary piece.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1905-0
00:21:39.258 --> 00:21:41.738
All right. Robert,
do you have something to add?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1916-0
00:21:42.978 --> 00:21:46.898
Hi, Ashley, this is Robert from DEP.
Department of sustainability.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1938-0
00:21:47.138 --> 00:21:51.212
I just want to be clear,
you are not against reporting your data
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1938-1
00:21:51.212 --> 00:21:55.098
to the State Department of Environmental
Protection, correct?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1944-0
00:21:57.118 --> 00:21:58.438
Not at all. We'd love to.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1956-0
00:21:58.438 --> 00:22:01.238
We wanna make sure all the collection
golds are being met.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1953-0
00:21:59.578 --> 00:21:59.898
OK.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1955-0
00:22:01.958 --> 00:22:02.278
All right.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1957-0
00:22:02.278 --> 00:22:02.998
Thank you.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1959-0
00:22:06.148 --> 00:22:06.628
Jennifer.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1961-0
00:22:17.908 --> 00:22:18.188
OK.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1968-0
00:22:21.998 --> 00:22:23.158
Sorry about that.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1977-0
00:22:23.958 --> 00:22:27.824
This is Jennifer Dapolonio from Maine
Department Hazardous Waste management
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1977-1
00:22:27.824 --> 00:22:28.078
unit.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1997-0
00:22:29.498 --> 00:22:33.455
Speaking of collections,
this may be something that we have to
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/1997-1
00:22:33.455 --> 00:22:37.098
discuss internally and also with the
sustainability unit.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2029-0
00:22:39.058 --> 00:22:44.651
But we in the hazardous waste management
unit have a requirement that if any
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2029-1
00:22:44.651 --> 00:22:50.172
universal waste, including batteries,
are going to be sent out of state for
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2029-2
00:22:50.172 --> 00:22:50.898
recycling.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2058-0
00:22:51.248 --> 00:22:56.162
And they're not on a hazardous waste
manifest or a main U ball.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2058-1
00:22:56.162 --> 00:23:01.997
The company needs to submit quarterly
reports under the alternate standards
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2058-2
00:23:01.997 --> 00:23:02.688
approval.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2066-0
00:23:04.298 --> 00:23:06.738
And they need to apply for that approval
first.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2080-0
00:23:08.228 --> 00:23:12.668
So I I don't know how exactly that's
going to dovetail with EPR.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2097-0
00:23:14.058 --> 00:23:16.654
And it.
But it also sounds like we need to have a
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2097-1
00:23:16.654 --> 00:23:19.978
conversation with Redwood after the after
this meeting as well.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2135-0
00:23:24.078 --> 00:23:28.522
So that's all I have for now,
but I think we're going to have to have
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2135-1
00:23:28.522 --> 00:23:33.284
some conversations about alternate
standards if out-of-state companies are
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2135-2
00:23:33.284 --> 00:23:38.110
going to be taking in batteries for
recycling on any paperwork other than a
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2135-3
00:23:38.110 --> 00:23:40.078
hazardous waste manifesto ball.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2144-0
00:23:42.768 --> 00:23:45.888
I'll drop my e-mail in the chat. Jennifer.
So you have it.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2178-0
00:23:45.888 --> 00:23:48.596
We would love to connect,
but again to the point,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2178-1
00:23:48.596 --> 00:23:52.984
like where recyclers that already doing
this work and we we register with States
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2178-2
00:23:52.984 --> 00:23:56.288
and make sure we're abiding by all the
the appropriate laws.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2190-0
00:23:56.288 --> 00:24:02.614
But it's definitely interesting throwing
an EPR and having these worlds work in
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2190-1
00:24:02.614 --> 00:24:03.168
tandem.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2197-0
00:24:03.168 --> 00:24:05.488
So yeah,
looking forward to contacting you.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2196-0
00:24:04.158 --> 00:24:04.438
OK.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2201-0
00:24:05.518 --> 00:24:06.518
Yeah, it sounds.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2207-0
00:24:06.518 --> 00:24:09.598
It sounds like you and I have to have a
separate conversation. Thank you.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2209-0
00:24:12.458 --> 00:24:13.578
OK, mark.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2245-0
00:24:14.598 --> 00:24:19.100
Yeah. Hi, mark. Bullish from Prba,
the Rechargeable Battery Association,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2245-1
00:24:19.100 --> 00:24:23.910
I I note in the straw man that and it
doesn't say in there that the there can
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2245-2
00:24:23.910 --> 00:24:24.958
be multiple bsos.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2261-0
00:24:24.958 --> 00:24:29.536
So that's that's a good thing.
The not-for-profit question is a good one
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2261-1
00:24:29.536 --> 00:24:30.038
as well.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2275-0
00:24:30.358 --> 00:24:34.096
You know, prba is neutral on that.
The model build that we have actually
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2275-1
00:24:34.096 --> 00:24:35.478
doesn't say anything on it.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2283-0
00:24:35.838 --> 00:24:40.478
PR OS can be not-for-profit or for profit.
In in our model.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2289-0
00:24:41.738 --> 00:24:43.418
The requirement though.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2291-0
00:24:43.418 --> 00:24:45.178
You know about the batteries being
reported.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2335-0
00:24:45.568 --> 00:24:50.459
Is is only part of the solution,
so if anybody can collect batteries and
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2335-1
00:24:50.459 --> 00:24:54.613
then not have state oversight beyond just
the reporting part,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2335-2
00:24:54.613 --> 00:25:00.107
that becomes problematic because how does
the state know that those batteries are
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2335-3
00:25:00.107 --> 00:25:01.648
being managed properly?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2369-0
00:25:02.168 --> 00:25:06.630
So it's an important distinction to make,
and that's that's part of the reason why
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2369-1
00:25:06.630 --> 00:25:10.716
there are so many requirements in Bill
language that require that a battery
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2369-2
00:25:10.716 --> 00:25:14.532
stewardship organization be approved by
the state. And then of course,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2369-3
00:25:14.532 --> 00:25:17.328
have the oversight by the state complete
oversight.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2371-0
00:25:26.498 --> 00:25:26.898
OK.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2376-0
00:25:26.898 --> 00:25:27.858
Thank you, mark.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2393-0
00:25:27.858 --> 00:25:34.514
So, so Mark, so I guess though,
how would you see just to be kind of
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2393-1
00:25:34.514 --> 00:25:37.698
broad, how would you see Redwood?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2400-0
00:25:39.178 --> 00:25:41.418
A system like redwoods talking about.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2403-0
00:25:42.848 --> 00:25:44.048
Interact with.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2406-0
00:25:45.578 --> 00:25:45.698
ABS.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2408-0
00:25:45.698 --> 00:25:47.458
You know BSO?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2431-0
00:25:50.358 --> 00:25:52.978
Well,
much like much like all recyclers do
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2431-1
00:25:52.978 --> 00:25:55.475
today,
they enter into agreements with a
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2431-2
00:25:55.475 --> 00:25:58.278
stewardship organization to manage
batteries.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2428-0
00:25:57.208 --> 00:25:57.688
Good evening.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2441-0
00:25:58.278 --> 00:26:01.598
And that agreement could include more
than just the processing.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2441-1
00:26:01.598 --> 00:26:03.518
It could include the collection, too.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2443-0
00:26:03.928 --> 00:26:05.168
Right. So.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2455-0
00:26:20.998 --> 00:26:24.678
Hey anyone from Verkle or in the room?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2461-0
00:26:24.718 --> 00:26:26.038
Yeah. So West.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2465-0
00:26:26.038 --> 00:26:29.638
Arnold,
I'm with Terracycle North Coast services.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2474-0
00:26:31.058 --> 00:26:33.418
We currently report all the quantities.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2482-0
00:26:35.418 --> 00:26:37.578
Batteries,
universal waste and whatnot as it is.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2488-0
00:26:39.098 --> 00:26:40.378
So the reporting side of things.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2495-0
00:26:41.978 --> 00:26:43.778
Wouldn't be an issue at all with our
process.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2507-0
00:26:43.778 --> 00:26:46.492
I mean,
we're at majority of these collection
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2507-1
00:26:46.492 --> 00:26:49.738
sites as it is currently and to collect
the batteries.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2514-0
00:26:51.168 --> 00:26:53.848
Just be one other thing we'd take while
we're there.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2535-0
00:26:55.328 --> 00:26:59.100
And again,
that the numbers reported by chemistry,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2535-1
00:26:59.100 --> 00:27:04.648
whether it's, you know algon, lithium ion,
Nicad, nickel, metal lead acid.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2544-0
00:27:06.338 --> 00:27:09.138
We provide that information on the
certificate of recycle.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2548-0
00:27:12.538 --> 00:27:13.818
Ashley, do your response.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2552-0
00:27:16.528 --> 00:27:17.328
Right, yeah.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2560-0
00:27:17.368 --> 00:27:20.674
And Trisha,
please fill in if we need to fill in
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2560-1
00:27:20.674 --> 00:27:21.888
anywhere else but.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2597-0
00:27:23.578 --> 00:27:28.344
I would like clear understanding on
because we were more than happy to work
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2597-1
00:27:28.344 --> 00:27:31.604
with the BSO,
but we also we do our own independent
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2597-2
00:27:31.604 --> 00:27:36.496
collection where we have our own branding.
We do our own education. You know,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2586-0
00:27:33.308 --> 00:27:33.428
Hmm.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2597-3
00:27:36.496 --> 00:27:40.258
in in the states where we do collection,
we're already Reg.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2616-0
00:27:40.258 --> 00:27:43.994
With the state and going through the
proper protocols in those states that
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2616-1
00:27:43.994 --> 00:27:45.738
don't have an EPR program in place.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2625-0
00:27:45.968 --> 00:27:48.448
It's like these are practices that are
already happening.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2629-0
00:27:50.898 --> 00:27:53.338
Apologies, that's one moment.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2636-0
00:27:59.298 --> 00:28:00.138
Yeah, I can.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2648-0
00:28:00.298 --> 00:28:04.143
I can feel a little bit for her.
I guess I'm not really understanding what
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/2648-1
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the question is that's being asked.
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00:28:13.308 --> 00:28:16.953
If it's with regards to the like the
custody of the materials that's being
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00:28:16.953 --> 00:28:17.828
collected is that.
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00:28:19.298 --> 00:28:19.938
What we're clarifying?
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00:28:20.678 --> 00:28:21.998
Yeah, that was sorry.
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00:28:21.998 --> 00:28:26.148
My dogs are crazy that that was the
question I was getting AT and and similar
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00:28:26.148 --> 00:28:30.193
to my point earlier is that a lot of
these programs to date are saying that
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00:28:30.193 --> 00:28:32.587
sure,
independent collection can't happen so
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00:28:32.587 --> 00:28:36.578
long as you're meeting specific standards.
But those batteries have to be.
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00:28:36.578 --> 00:28:40.303
Forfeited to a BSO,
so if we're willing to come to the table
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00:28:40.303 --> 00:28:44.151
and offer a collection on our own dime,
that makes it cheaper.
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00:28:44.151 --> 00:28:45.678
You know for the program.
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00:28:46.298 --> 00:28:49.016
And the state overall,
just having players come in that want to
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00:28:49.016 --> 00:28:49.738
do this for free.
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00:28:50.848 --> 00:28:54.168
And as long as we're reporting the data,
we see that as a good thing.
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00:28:55.698 --> 00:28:58.409
But if that forfeiture clause is is
included here,
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00:28:58.409 --> 00:29:01.758
you know it doesn't really make sense
that we work with a BSO.
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00:29:01.758 --> 00:29:05.373
We collect the batteries,
but then we have to forfeit the batteries
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00:29:05.373 --> 00:29:07.818
and then buy the batteries back from the
BSO.
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00:29:08.338 --> 00:29:12.117
And I understand too, being a recycler,
we're in a unique position because it's
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00:29:12.117 --> 00:29:15.897
not just we're collecting the batteries
and then selling those onto the market.
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00:29:15.897 --> 00:29:19.298
The batteries are are coming to us
because we are the battery recycler.
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00:29:19.528 --> 00:29:23.947
So just trying to understand of how
ownership of the battery is perceived in
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00:29:23.947 --> 00:29:24.808
this situation.
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00:29:38.048 --> 00:29:41.222
Yeah,
I guess to clarify and be clear that on
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00:29:41.222 --> 00:29:46.328
any of our collection sites too,
we accept all batteries that are put in.
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00:29:46.328 --> 00:29:51.358
So we bring them back, we sort through,
we're directly recycling the lithium
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00:29:51.358 --> 00:29:55.408
material and finding downstream partners
to recycle the rest.
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00:29:56.938 --> 00:29:59.726
And that can all be reported as part of
it, if that's.
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00:29:59.726 --> 00:30:01.298
If that's part of the question.
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00:30:03.818 --> 00:30:08.265
I think that the the idea here though is
that we can streamline the process being
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00:30:08.265 --> 00:30:12.496
allowed to collect directly and and be in
the end processor for a lot of that
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00:30:12.496 --> 00:30:13.418
material as well.
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00:30:33.508 --> 00:30:35.268
So I guess sounds like, well, I guess.
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00:30:37.778 --> 00:30:43.138
People can submit us written comments too,
as to this issue and how.
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00:30:45.498 --> 00:30:45.658
They.
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00:30:47.378 --> 00:30:51.055
See it how they could you know,
comments to this to address this.
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00:30:51.055 --> 00:30:52.058
The issue of this.
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00:31:06.408 --> 00:31:07.528
So we've got another person.
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00:31:09.018 --> 00:31:11.498
OK. So Curtis was first.
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00:31:13.138 --> 00:31:13.738
All right, Curtis.
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00:31:14.808 --> 00:31:16.168
Good afternoon, everybody.
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00:31:16.448 --> 00:31:17.848
This is Curtis Picard.
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00:31:17.848 --> 00:31:19.928
I run the Retail Association of Maine.
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00:31:20.368 --> 00:31:25.517
I wasn't able to attend the first meeting,
so I'm really going off the straw man
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00:31:25.517 --> 00:31:28.568
proposal and just have a couple quick
comments.
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00:31:30.018 --> 00:31:34.778
We represent retailers of all different
sizes. I appreciate that.
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00:31:35.098 --> 00:31:38.058
The collection program is voluntary.
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00:31:38.058 --> 00:31:40.738
We certainly would like it to stay
voluntary.
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00:31:40.778 --> 00:31:44.129
We do that with other programs in the
ball and the retailers that choose to
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00:31:44.129 --> 00:31:44.658
participate.
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00:31:45.608 --> 00:31:50.193
In collection programs,
choose to do so not be mandated,
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00:31:50.193 --> 00:31:56.065
but I would say one of the areas of
concern that typically crops up with
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00:31:56.065 --> 00:32:02.098
product recycling is any kind of
compliance burden that's going to fall on
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00:32:02.098 --> 00:32:07.568
retail to determine whether or not a
product is complying with the.
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00:32:07.568 --> 00:32:11.448
Program or not,
we think there should be some sort of.
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00:32:12.618 --> 00:32:14.378
You know, a really good brand registry.
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00:32:15.208 --> 00:32:20.168
A cure window a sell through or I think
in other situations we've had.
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00:32:22.138 --> 00:32:27.467
Language where the producer or wholesaler
is able to take the product back and
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00:32:27.467 --> 00:32:29.018
reimburse the retailer.
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00:32:29.018 --> 00:32:32.009
So for example,
for retailer made an investment in a
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00:32:32.009 --> 00:32:35.789
substantial amount of inventory that is
found to be non compliant.
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00:32:35.789 --> 00:32:38.498
The retailer shouldn't be on the hook for
that.
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00:32:39.178 --> 00:32:42.218
It's up to the producer to make sure
they're participating in this.
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00:32:44.018 --> 00:32:44.498
I'm encouraged.
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00:32:44.498 --> 00:32:46.578
By what I heard,
because I don't know too much about these.
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00:32:46.888 --> 00:32:50.568
Containers,
but one of the areas I think I would be.
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00:32:52.058 --> 00:32:57.403
Would have concern for some of the
retailers, is the the potential fire risk?
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00:32:57.403 --> 00:33:02.473
So if these containers are fireproof,
I like the idea of them being Wi-Fi
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00:33:02.473 --> 00:33:07.338
connected and with, you know,
a sensor to determine when they're full.
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00:33:07.338 --> 00:33:10.745
That's encouraging and helpful.
So I appreciate that.
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00:33:10.745 --> 00:33:14.784
But if there is going to be multiple
stewardship organizations,
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00:33:14.784 --> 00:33:16.298
I think retailers would.
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00:33:16.608 --> 00:33:22.574
And consumers would appreciate consistent
branding and standardized standard
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00:33:22.574 --> 00:33:25.208
operating procedures and labeling.
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00:33:26.898 --> 00:33:27.698
So I think that's it.
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00:33:27.858 --> 00:33:29.738
Just wanted to offer those comments at
this point.
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00:33:37.068 --> 00:33:38.108
OK, Katie.
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00:33:38.108 --> 00:33:40.880
Yes,
I guess I would just send me if in the
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00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:45.037
case of multiple PR OS,
I do see them being coordinated effort to
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00:33:45.037 --> 00:33:48.628
kind of like the way,
although there's only two the way.
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00:33:50.098 --> 00:33:50.658
Pharmaceutical.
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00:33:52.978 --> 00:33:54.178
Yeah, pharmaceutical.
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00:33:56.498 --> 00:33:56.778
R PR PRP.
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00:33:57.018 --> 00:34:00.698
Sorry, I'm going back to my old days.
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00:34:00.738 --> 00:34:04.418
The pharmaceutical PRM's are doing it.
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00:34:03.168 --> 00:34:05.448
Take back the payback. Yeah, yeah.
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00:34:05.118 --> 00:34:07.318
Yeah, great. Yeah.
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00:34:08.818 --> 00:34:13.027
That would be,
I foresee a robust coordination between
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00:34:13.027 --> 00:34:17.618
if there's multiple PR OS to have one
system for the state.
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00:34:21.158 --> 00:34:21.838
Thanks Curtis.
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00:34:23.338 --> 00:34:24.258
Katie's up.
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00:34:27.008 --> 00:34:29.874
Thank you,
Katie Riley with the Consumer Technology
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00:34:29.874 --> 00:34:31.968
Association, we go by the acronym CTA.
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00:34:32.848 --> 00:34:37.454
We're North America's largest technology
trade association and we represent the
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00:34:37.454 --> 00:34:41.715
companies that have supported the
electronics EPR program there in Maine.
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00:34:41.715 --> 00:34:45.458
I think I was pulling the stats yesterday
and it's over 100,000,
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00:34:45.458 --> 00:34:49.374
000 lbs of electronics that our Members
have responsibly supported.
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00:34:49.374 --> 00:34:50.698
The collection and rec.
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00:34:51.008 --> 00:34:52.408
Of there in the state of Maine.
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00:34:53.448 --> 00:34:58.608
I do have kind of one comment with maybe
a question as well and one question.
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00:34:58.608 --> 00:34:59.968
So I'll start with a comment.
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00:35:00.528 --> 00:35:04.372
We're kind of hyper focused on battery
embedded products and how those may or
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00:35:04.372 --> 00:35:06.688
may not be handled as part of this
discussion.
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00:35:06.688 --> 00:35:11.633
So we definitely were heartened to see
that there would be additional evaluation
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00:35:11.633 --> 00:35:16.333
and development around how best to handle
battery embedded products from our
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00:35:16.333 --> 00:35:19.385
perspective,
kind of the scope of the category of
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00:35:19.385 --> 00:35:21.888
battery embedded products is still being.
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00:35:22.288 --> 00:35:24.128
Sort of figure it out and determined.
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00:35:24.288 --> 00:35:27.459
We know it's a really vast and diverse
set of products,
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00:35:27.459 --> 00:35:30.008
everything from consumer electronics,
right?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3599-0
00:35:30.008 --> 00:35:34.008
To light up tennis shoes to gardening and
lawn equipment, to vaping products.
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00:35:34.128 --> 00:35:38.602
So we appreciate DEP's reference to the
studies that are happening elsewhere in
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00:35:38.602 --> 00:35:42.182
several other states,
and we definitely support that additional
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00:35:42.182 --> 00:35:46.153
dialogue and evaluation is needed,
and we hope that would happen via a
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00:35:46.153 --> 00:35:50.291
stakeholder process that's specific to
Maine to really determine if these
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00:35:50.291 --> 00:35:51.298
products fit into.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3666-0
00:35:51.298 --> 00:35:54.634
An existing,
you know EPR program or collection and
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3666-1
00:35:54.634 --> 00:35:59.510
recycling infrastructure or if there are
unique needs based on the specific
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00:35:59.510 --> 00:36:00.408
product types.
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00:36:00.408 --> 00:36:04.195
So like for example we know that
electronics recyclers don't want vaping
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00:36:04.195 --> 00:36:07.048
products in their facilities for a
variety of reasons.
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00:36:07.128 --> 00:36:10.045
Or lawn equipment.
They may have gasoline present that
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00:36:10.045 --> 00:36:11.848
creates another set of challenges.
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00:36:11.848 --> 00:36:16.493
So we do know other jurisdictions are
looking at evaluation and phased in
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00:36:16.493 --> 00:36:20.888
approaches kind of via small groupings of
similar product categories.
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00:36:20.888 --> 00:36:25.360
That's happening in Quebec right now.
So just I guess the comment that we
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00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:29.650
appreciate that main DEP wants to be
thoughtful and kind of look at an
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3762-2
00:36:29.650 --> 00:36:33.215
evaluation process.
Maybe the question here is what is DEP
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3762-3
00:36:33.215 --> 00:36:34.968
envisioning for that process?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3798-0
00:36:35.128 --> 00:36:39.690
Is that kind of going to be incorporated
as part of the legislation that
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3798-1
00:36:39.690 --> 00:36:42.628
presumably will come from the Straw Man
draft,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3798-2
00:36:42.628 --> 00:36:47.128
or is that something that will be
addressed in like future EPR reports?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3801-0
00:36:47.778 --> 00:36:48.098
And future.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3812-0
00:36:48.538 --> 00:36:50.938
Just kind of DEP LED discussions over the
next several years.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3832-0
00:36:52.388 --> 00:36:55.533
At this time,
I'd like it to be in the legislation
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3832-1
00:36:55.533 --> 00:36:58.308
itself,
in some type of way that we address.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3844-0
00:37:00.098 --> 00:37:03.683
Basically,
I guess the term would be kind of develop
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3844-1
00:37:03.683 --> 00:37:04.698
an on ramp for.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3862-0
00:37:06.978 --> 00:37:12.267
Embedded battery products and I and I.
And I'll be honest, I'm kind of,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3862-1
00:37:12.267 --> 00:37:15.058
we're still kind of working as to how.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3874-0
00:37:16.698 --> 00:37:20.158
Working on how that approach would
actually look in writing in the
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3874-1
00:37:20.158 --> 00:37:20.778
legislation.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3884-0
00:37:21.528 --> 00:37:26.808
So if there are any,
anyone has any proposals?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3897-0
00:37:28.378 --> 00:37:31.458
Feel free to submit them, but I mean,
we do know that.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3904-0
00:37:31.578 --> 00:37:35.258
I mean that they are an issue that we
want to address, so.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3927-0
00:37:36.898 --> 00:37:40.885
Whether or not there's a staggered
approach where we somehow work
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3927-1
00:37:40.885 --> 00:37:43.724
legislatively,
stay where we we come up with a
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3927-2
00:37:43.724 --> 00:37:45.778
categorization system and address.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3936-0
00:37:47.618 --> 00:37:50.218
Address products category by category.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3940-0
00:37:50.608 --> 00:37:52.128
And where they might fit.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3955-0
00:37:53.618 --> 00:38:00.498
With maybe a some type of calendar kind
of to to kind of lock that process in.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3978-0
00:38:02.108 --> 00:38:05.045
OK.
And that would be adep spearheaded
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3978-1
00:38:05.045 --> 00:38:09.188
stakeholder process or DEP just doing
that on its own?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3974-0
00:38:07.138 --> 00:38:07.738
Yeah.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3984-0
00:38:09.218 --> 00:38:13.258
Yeah,
that would be adep spearheaded process.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3986-0
00:38:14.318 --> 00:38:15.678
OK, OK.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3998-0
00:38:17.138 --> 00:38:19.194
Yeah,
we'll put together some thoughts around
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/3998-1
00:38:19.194 --> 00:38:19.418
this.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4032-0
00:38:19.418 --> 00:38:21.626
You know,
it's something that we've very much
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4032-1
00:38:21.626 --> 00:38:24.554
thought about. You know,
there may be compatibility with the
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4032-2
00:38:24.554 --> 00:38:27.914
electronics recycling system or structure
there for certain products,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4032-3
00:38:27.914 --> 00:38:31.562
but definitely not everything with an
embedded battery is going to fit into
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4032-4
00:38:31.562 --> 00:38:32.138
that system.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4039-0
00:38:32.138 --> 00:38:36.578
So thank you. And then my other question.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4055-0
00:38:38.218 --> 00:38:40.944
So in this section around covered
products,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4055-1
00:38:40.944 --> 00:38:44.538
you noted that producers of products that
have batteries.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4095-0
00:38:44.888 --> 00:38:50.514
Is included in sale would be within scope
is that I want to clarify is that that
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4095-1
00:38:50.514 --> 00:38:55.863
the producer of a product that has a
removable battery pays into the program
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4095-2
00:38:55.863 --> 00:39:00.031
for the batteries that are included in
sale of the product,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4095-3
00:39:00.031 --> 00:39:02.948
but the product itself is not required to.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4108-0
00:39:02.938 --> 00:39:06.248
Be covered in the be collected in the
system. Is that correct?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4114-0
00:39:06.628 --> 00:39:07.588
Yes, that's correct.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4131-0
00:39:07.588 --> 00:39:11.629
The product is the remote and like in the
case of a remote control,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4115-0
00:39:07.738 --> 00:39:07.898
OK.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4131-1
00:39:11.629 --> 00:39:13.828
the remote control would be included.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4140-0
00:39:13.828 --> 00:39:15.948
Just the batteries that come with it.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4137-0
00:39:16.188 --> 00:39:16.548
OK.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4154-0
00:39:16.548 --> 00:39:20.843
So the producer of that product would pay
into the system for the battery that
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4154-1
00:39:20.843 --> 00:39:22.148
accompanies that remote.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4168-0
00:39:22.148 --> 00:39:24.124
The battery can be collected through the
system,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4168-1
00:39:24.124 --> 00:39:27.068
but it's not mandating the collection of
the rest of the remote control.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4171-0
00:39:28.888 --> 00:39:29.608
Correct.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4172-0
00:39:29.918 --> 00:39:30.278
OK.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4176-0
00:39:30.318 --> 00:39:30.798
Thank you.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4189-0
00:39:30.798 --> 00:39:34.638
Just wanted to confirm that's how most of
the battery stewardship laws operate.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4194-0
00:39:34.638 --> 00:39:36.678
So just wanted to confirm that's the case
here.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4198-0
00:39:36.678 --> 00:39:37.278
Thank you very much.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4200-0
00:39:37.058 --> 00:39:38.218
Sure. Yeah.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4234-0
00:39:38.218 --> 00:39:43.204
And I guess the two would like the
comments like which you know of the
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4234-1
00:39:43.204 --> 00:39:49.103
product, what what I don't wanna say this,
if you have a proposal for the different
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4234-2
00:39:49.103 --> 00:39:53.738
categories of products with embedded
batteries which would which?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4257-0
00:39:55.418 --> 00:39:58.362
Would,
which makes sense to include with a,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4257-1
00:39:58.362 --> 00:40:03.647
which would make sense to include in a
current e-waste program that would then
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4257-2
00:40:03.647 --> 00:40:06.858
of course need to be expanded to include
those.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4270-0
00:40:07.568 --> 00:40:13.688
And which products are such that really
should have their own standalone?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4272-0
00:40:15.198 --> 00:40:15.798
Program.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4278-0
00:40:17.038 --> 00:40:17.878
Sure we can.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4320-0
00:40:17.878 --> 00:40:22.139
We can discuss that with our Members.
You all have a very unique structure
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4320-1
00:40:22.139 --> 00:40:25.207
there in Maine for how your e-waste
program operates,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4320-2
00:40:25.207 --> 00:40:29.810
including some brand sorting that kind of
adds some some cost into the system as
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4320-3
00:40:29.810 --> 00:40:32.878
sort of a structure.
We've moved away from and a lot.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4354-0
00:40:33.148 --> 00:40:36.930
State electronics CPR programs,
but happy to give some thought to that
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4354-1
00:40:36.930 --> 00:40:40.977
and maybe do a sit down with DEP to talk
further about the goals around the
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4354-2
00:40:40.977 --> 00:40:43.108
electronics EPR program into the future.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4359-0
00:40:43.778 --> 00:40:45.458
Sure, Freddie.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4360-0
00:40:46.018 --> 00:40:46.898
Thank you.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4365-0
00:40:48.028 --> 00:40:49.228
Next up is Brett.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4375-0
00:40:50.938 --> 00:40:52.749
Yes,
my name is Brett Scott from Haven
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4375-1
00:40:52.749 --> 00:40:53.538
Management group.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4423-0
00:40:53.538 --> 00:40:59.222
I just want to bring up my concern as a
chain retailer in terms of if there's an
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4423-1
00:40:59.222 --> 00:41:02.380
Ave.
for the retailer to serve as ultimately
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4423-2
00:41:02.380 --> 00:41:08.135
the person to take responsibility for the
being a part of the stewardship program
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4423-3
00:41:08.135 --> 00:41:11.644
for select products.
I'm concerned about smaller,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4423-4
00:41:11.644 --> 00:41:13.258
more fragmented indust.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4471-0
00:41:14.018 --> 00:41:18.627
In which you know we don't have
traditional distribution channels of
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4471-1
00:41:18.627 --> 00:41:23.971
where you can reach the manufacturer or
in a way that the Manu are large enough
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4471-2
00:41:23.971 --> 00:41:27.913
or to be able to actually care to partake
in this program.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4471-3
00:41:27.913 --> 00:41:32.188
And I'm just concerned about a lot of
smaller retailers having.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4505-0
00:41:32.188 --> 00:41:35.681
A lot of products that the manufacturers
are not willing to partake,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4505-1
00:41:35.681 --> 00:41:38.162
and at least if we have the option to,
you know,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4505-2
00:41:38.162 --> 00:41:41.908
handle that for those products that are
being sold out of our own stores.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4556-0
00:41:41.908 --> 00:41:46.092
But I think of things like gift shops
throughout the state. I think of,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4556-1
00:41:46.092 --> 00:41:48.939
you know, surplus retailers that have,
you know,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4556-2
00:41:48.939 --> 00:41:53.529
fragmented inventory coming in that the
manufacturer isn't going to care about
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4556-3
00:41:53.529 --> 00:41:56.783
registering even hardware stores,
discount tool stores,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4556-4
00:41:56.783 --> 00:41:59.398
just a lot of Main Street businesses in
bus.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4572-0
00:41:59.398 --> 00:42:02.308
Like my own,
where I think it'd be very challenging to
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4572-1
00:42:02.308 --> 00:42:03.948
get the manufacturers on board.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4614-0
00:42:03.948 --> 00:42:06.647
You know,
we as a retailer want to do the right
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4614-1
00:42:06.647 --> 00:42:09.403
thing,
but this is going to restrict the product
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4614-2
00:42:09.403 --> 00:42:13.734
availability that we're able to offer.
And I also feel by offering that Ave.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4614-3
00:42:13.734 --> 00:42:18.346
it'll allow the program itself to be more
successful because even things like you
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4614-4
00:42:18.346 --> 00:42:18.908
know this.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4620-0
00:42:18.908 --> 00:42:20.588
Mentions online and I think about.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4665-0
00:42:20.788 --> 00:42:23.650
Sellers on Amazon that maybe just a mom
and pop business,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4665-1
00:42:23.650 --> 00:42:26.856
but they're just a reseller selling
through Amazon and you know,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4665-2
00:42:26.856 --> 00:42:30.458
at least that way there. You know,
there's somebody that really is being
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4665-3
00:42:30.458 --> 00:42:33.813
held responsible that if these products
are coming into the market,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4665-4
00:42:33.813 --> 00:42:34.948
this person is respons.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4679-0
00:42:35.148 --> 00:42:39.668
For it,
unless the manufacturer is is handling it.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4698-0
00:42:39.668 --> 00:42:43.602
So I just would love to see some Ave.
to be able to basically cover those
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4698-1
00:42:43.602 --> 00:42:47.749
products that are not a part of this.
So we don't lose the option to sell the
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4698-2
00:42:47.749 --> 00:42:48.228
products.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4710-0
00:42:51.988 --> 00:42:57.060
OK.
I mean in some ways that brings up the
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4710-1
00:42:57.060 --> 00:42:58.948
issue of I mean.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4715-0
00:43:00.438 --> 00:43:00.718
If a if.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4734-0
00:43:00.718 --> 00:43:05.456
A product's not if a product's not
covered then it's getting into the system
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4734-1
00:43:05.456 --> 00:43:08.718
and it's basically free riding into that
system. So.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4741-0
00:43:10.878 --> 00:43:13.158
I guess we'd have to, you know.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4740-0
00:43:12.708 --> 00:43:13.028
OK.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4759-0
00:43:15.628 --> 00:43:17.661
Brian,
I guess my point is that like as a
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4759-1
00:43:17.661 --> 00:43:20.129
retailer,
I'd be willing to take on that financial
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4759-2
00:43:20.129 --> 00:43:20.468
burden.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4777-0
00:43:20.468 --> 00:43:24.428
So it's not being a free rider,
it's just that that product, you know,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4777-1
00:43:24.428 --> 00:43:28.668
can't be sold anywhere unless the
retailer's taking on that responsibility.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4782-0
00:43:28.668 --> 00:43:31.148
For what they're selling out of their
store.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4783-0
00:43:31.868 --> 00:43:32.268
OK.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4787-0
00:43:40.428 --> 00:43:42.028
Ashley, do you have a response?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4802-0
00:43:45.418 --> 00:43:49.586
I had a question going back to the
multiple battery stewardship
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4802-1
00:43:49.586 --> 00:43:50.498
organizations.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4815-0
00:43:51.878 --> 00:43:54.998
Did you want to take another second to
keep talking about Brett's question or
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4815-1
00:43:54.998 --> 00:43:55.958
can I start a new topic?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4830-0
00:43:59.018 --> 00:44:02.258
I think I think it's just something we'll
we'll note how.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4837-0
00:44:02.258 --> 00:44:05.018
I guess that's something that's come up
and we'll note how we would.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4840-0
00:44:07.798 --> 00:44:08.838
How products?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4843-0
00:44:10.698 --> 00:44:12.058
Coming into the.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4847-0
00:44:13.638 --> 00:44:14.518
They have.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4851-0
00:44:14.518 --> 00:44:16.558
They might have that interaction might
work.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4853-0
00:44:18.228 --> 00:44:18.588
Thank you.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4855-0
00:44:22.608 --> 00:44:22.968
OK.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4858-0
00:44:22.968 --> 00:44:23.688
Go ahead, Ashley.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4860-0
00:44:24.678 --> 00:44:25.358
Thank you.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4892-0
00:44:26.838 --> 00:44:33.519
So my question is or beginning statement
is that we we are supportive of the PRBA
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4892-1
00:44:33.519 --> 00:44:40.038
model for not having battery stewardship
organizations be limited to nonprofit?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4922-0
00:44:40.038 --> 00:44:42.478
So if that is something you're
considering,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4922-1
00:44:42.478 --> 00:44:46.637
we we are favorable towards that and we
also appreciate that the the draft
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4922-2
00:44:46.637 --> 00:44:50.242
language sent around so far
recommendations states that multiple
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4922-3
00:44:50.242 --> 00:44:53.958
battery stewardship organizations can
coordinate with one another.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4934-0
00:44:55.828 --> 00:44:59.508
Our team is looking for a little bit more
clarity on coordination.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4971-0
00:44:59.748 --> 00:45:02.903
Specifically,
we're advocating that battery stewardship
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4971-1
00:45:02.903 --> 00:45:05.607
organizations,
if multiple of them are allowed,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4971-2
00:45:05.607 --> 00:45:09.776
that they can collectively work together
to achieve statewide convenience
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4971-3
00:45:09.776 --> 00:45:14.001
standards as opposed to each battery
stewardship organization individually
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4971-4
00:45:14.001 --> 00:45:18.114
having to meet the same convenience
standards and being charged the same
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4971-5
00:45:18.114 --> 00:45:18.508
amount.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4983-0
00:45:19.318 --> 00:45:23.398
To submit a battery stewardship plan or
any other fees to the state.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/4995-0
00:45:24.948 --> 00:45:30.348
So I can pause there if you have any
questions, but we're looking for.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5012-0
00:45:32.118 --> 00:45:36.556
Multiple battery storage organizations to
collectively work together as opposed to
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5012-1
00:45:36.556 --> 00:45:37.518
just coordinating.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5020-0
00:45:39.118 --> 00:45:41.198
But I'm not quite sure what your
definition of coordinating is.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5027-0
00:45:43.068 --> 00:45:45.148
Yeah, but we have enough staff for that.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5053-0
00:45:45.748 --> 00:45:52.148
Well, I mean well, I guess, I mean, yeah,
I guess to be we,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5053-1
00:45:52.148 --> 00:46:00.148
I guess the whole question of of how the
how the if there's multiple bsos.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5060-0
00:46:01.758 --> 00:46:03.238
How? What is the level of?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5076-0
00:46:05.078 --> 00:46:12.118
Of coordination that we would want to not
impose is the right word, but we.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5086-0
00:46:12.998 --> 00:46:18.438
Would require and I guess that's
something we would look be looking for.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5091-0
00:46:20.358 --> 00:46:21.998
Assist with defining.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5104-0
00:46:24.558 --> 00:46:27.998
And really quickly,
just under score as well.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5146-0
00:46:28.518 --> 00:46:31.141
You know,
multiple battery stewardship
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5146-1
00:46:31.141 --> 00:46:36.184
organizations that may allow for a
producer to represent the the their own
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5146-2
00:46:36.184 --> 00:46:40.622
selves if they'd like to or you know,
a group of three producers.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5146-3
00:46:40.622 --> 00:46:46.204
It's just it's a little inequitable for a
BSO that has maybe 50 producers versus a
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5146-4
00:46:46.204 --> 00:46:47.078
BSO that has.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5160-0
00:46:47.078 --> 00:46:50.838
3 producers or a singular producer to all
be expected to meet the same.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5169-0
00:46:51.518 --> 00:46:53.718
Convenience standards and if they could
work collectively, it would.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5172-0
00:46:54.268 --> 00:46:55.108
It would.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5193-0
00:46:55.268 --> 00:47:01.422
It would support a multiple BSO model as
opposed to each group having to meet the
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5193-1
00:47:01.422 --> 00:47:02.548
same standards.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5208-0
00:47:02.548 --> 00:47:06.164
That really just pushes everybody to do a
single stewardship model,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5208-1
00:47:06.164 --> 00:47:07.228
if that makes sense.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5206-0
00:47:06.538 --> 00:47:07.258
Hi guy.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5215-0
00:47:07.258 --> 00:47:09.378
Yeah,
I got to know what you're saying now. Now.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5220-0
00:47:09.378 --> 00:47:13.258
Sorry, yeah,
making so like having a statewide.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5236-0
00:47:14.718 --> 00:47:19.484
Having multiple the multiple bsos work
towards the statewide convenience
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5236-1
00:47:19.484 --> 00:47:20.398
standard, say.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5243-0
00:47:22.078 --> 00:47:23.918
As opposed to each one replicating.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5245-0
00:47:25.598 --> 00:47:26.478
Collection points.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5248-0
00:47:28.158 --> 00:47:28.958
Exactly.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5251-0
00:47:28.798 --> 00:47:30.318
Yeah, I gotcha. Yeah.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5255-0
00:47:39.708 --> 00:47:41.708
Nothing from the Internet right now.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5258-0
00:47:41.708 --> 00:47:42.908
Anything from the table?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5268-0
00:47:44.358 --> 00:47:48.118
I have something I just at the first
meeting. Mike and Carol again.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5273-0
00:47:51.558 --> 00:47:53.238
So in our experience.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5288-0
00:47:55.158 --> 00:47:58.165
I mean,
we definitely support this as we see how
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5288-1
00:47:58.165 --> 00:48:00.558
how things stand out in our experience.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5297-0
00:48:00.558 --> 00:48:04.678
This stuff's in the garbage right now and
it's can be combustible.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5307-0
00:48:04.758 --> 00:48:08.838
But garbage is really wet,
so we tend to see it smolder for a while.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5343-0
00:48:09.228 --> 00:48:14.202
Well, and have time to attend to it.
If these are being collected separately
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5343-1
00:48:14.202 --> 00:48:18.594
and like we're we're we're promoting this
to our transfer stations,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5343-2
00:48:18.594 --> 00:48:23.761
I really like the sound of a fireproof
box because I think if they're collected
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5343-3
00:48:23.761 --> 00:48:27.508
in now that they're collected together
and dry and every.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5356-0
00:48:27.508 --> 00:48:32.188
Else the chance of something being
combustible and spreading a lot quicker.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5364-0
00:48:33.718 --> 00:48:35.758
Is not like when we're seeing it in the
garbage.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5372-0
00:48:35.758 --> 00:48:37.758
Garbage is really, really wet,
and there's lots of it.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5412-0
00:48:38.828 --> 00:48:44.076
And so we can tend to get to it where if
you're throwing these in a bin that's on
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5412-1
00:48:44.076 --> 00:48:47.340
top of a pallet and they crack and and
start fire,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5412-2
00:48:47.340 --> 00:48:52.396
that's all plastic in that bin that I
think is a lot drier and it could spread
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5412-3
00:48:52.396 --> 00:48:53.548
much more quickly.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5442-0
00:48:53.548 --> 00:48:57.397
I've heard a bunch about fireproof and as
you write this I think that should be
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5442-1
00:48:57.397 --> 00:49:00.428
something we should consider.
That collection of these things.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5450-0
00:49:00.428 --> 00:49:05.148
Isn't that the vendor's supplying a
firecracker, right? So.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5453-0
00:49:05.838 --> 00:49:06.478
The so pretty robust.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5462-0
00:49:07.998 --> 00:49:11.598
Right.
Description of of what the collection.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5478-0
00:49:12.468 --> 00:49:16.932
Infrastructure is gonna like, I believe,
e-waste right now has to be in it's own
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5478-1
00:49:16.932 --> 00:49:17.428
building.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5481-0
00:49:17.508 --> 00:49:19.308
It is. Yes, yes. So.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5497-0
00:49:20.838 --> 00:49:25.357
So there should be some pretty robust and
specific requirements for collection
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5497-1
00:49:25.357 --> 00:49:25.758
points.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5519-0
00:49:25.758 --> 00:49:29.552
There's a thing called the Gaylord that
sits on top of a pallet that's like a 4
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5519-1
00:49:29.552 --> 00:49:32.018
by 4 box.
If these things are getting thrown in the
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5519-2
00:49:32.018 --> 00:49:33.678
Gables and that would have combust.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5526-0
00:49:33.678 --> 00:49:36.078
And I just think it's a lot drier than
garbage.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5533-0
00:49:36.078 --> 00:49:37.958
It's it's gonna spread a lot quicker,
right?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5538-0
00:49:37.958 --> 00:49:41.558
So, so so plan would include a robust.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5550-0
00:49:42.348 --> 00:49:47.428
Description of a call it the at point
collection infrastructure.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5575-0
00:49:48.918 --> 00:49:52.279
With the funding,
I can see a support in this to our our
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5575-1
00:49:52.279 --> 00:49:56.229
all our transfer stations,
but if they're being thrown in the pile
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5575-2
00:49:56.229 --> 00:49:57.998
right, you don't wanna, right?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5590-0
00:49:57.998 --> 00:50:01.885
I just wouldn't want to see that, right?
So so there would be both a well said
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5590-1
00:50:01.885 --> 00:50:02.918
that goes along with.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5596-0
00:50:05.198 --> 00:50:09.438
A infrastructure and training.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5598-0
00:50:11.398 --> 00:50:11.958
Requirements.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5629-0
00:50:13.628 --> 00:50:16.972
But like I said, waist is really wet,
so the chances of coming in the next
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5629-1
00:50:16.972 --> 00:50:20.717
morning seeing something like wet leaves,
seeing something smaller and we have time
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5629-2
00:50:20.717 --> 00:50:23.081
to react, right.
If something would happen overnight
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5629-3
00:50:23.081 --> 00:50:25.488
within hours, it could.
It could spread much quicker,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5629-4
00:50:25.488 --> 00:50:26.068
much quicker.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5634-0
00:50:26.188 --> 00:50:29.308
So OK, I would say that.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5642-0
00:50:30.838 --> 00:50:32.998
If you're talking about transfer stations.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5664-0
00:50:34.308 --> 00:50:38.322
I think there needs to be more education
done at the transfer stations,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5664-1
00:50:38.322 --> 00:50:41.221
specifically when when they're receiving
batteries,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5664-2
00:50:41.221 --> 00:50:43.228
specifically rechargeable batteries.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5678-0
00:50:45.798 --> 00:50:49.078
The perpetrator of fires most of the time.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5707-0
00:50:49.078 --> 00:50:53.771
Or lithium ion batteries.
And what really needs to happen is is
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5707-1
00:50:53.771 --> 00:50:59.711
when these batteries are then taken to a
transfer station that there be a visual
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5707-2
00:50:59.711 --> 00:51:02.278
inspection of that battery because.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5733-0
00:51:02.628 --> 00:51:07.330
These fires occur with lithium ion
batteries when when these batteries are
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5733-1
00:51:07.330 --> 00:51:10.716
damaged. OK,
when some type of damage has occurred to
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5733-2
00:51:10.716 --> 00:51:11.468
the battery.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5751-0
00:51:12.958 --> 00:51:18.158
Or it's an extremely cheap lithium ion
battery made in China, for example.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5757-0
00:51:18.158 --> 00:51:22.238
That that will self combust. OK,
that could happen too.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5801-0
00:51:23.268 --> 00:51:28.270
But I think there needs to be a whole
process here as far as the container's
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5801-1
00:51:28.270 --> 00:51:31.973
concerned from a recycler's perspective,
my perspective,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5801-2
00:51:31.973 --> 00:51:37.105
there's a cost associated with that,
and if the state says that that container
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5801-3
00:51:37.105 --> 00:51:41.718
has to have certain requirements,
then there's a cost associated with.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5813-0
00:51:41.718 --> 00:51:44.708
That and I need to be able to cover that
cost.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5818-0
00:51:45.068 --> 00:51:48.148
So I I think you know I think.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5823-0
00:51:48.838 --> 00:51:50.038
If everybody does their part.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5827-0
00:51:51.838 --> 00:51:52.758
And that we?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5832-0
00:51:53.028 --> 00:51:56.788
We do a education with the with the.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5854-0
00:51:58.558 --> 00:52:01.331
With the transfer stations,
because a lot of them,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5854-1
00:52:01.331 --> 00:52:05.355
they don't take these lithium ion
batteries because they're afraid of EM,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5854-2
00:52:05.355 --> 00:52:05.518
OK?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5866-0
00:52:07.238 --> 00:52:10.798
They think that they're gonna start a
fire and and they won't.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5888-0
00:52:11.078 --> 00:52:16.029
There's a reason why they're being used,
but if they come in damaged then then
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5888-1
00:52:16.029 --> 00:52:20.417
they need to tell that person.
You need to find another home for that
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5888-2
00:52:20.417 --> 00:52:20.918
battery.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5890-0
00:52:21.268 --> 00:52:21.788
OK.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5897-0
00:52:23.278 --> 00:52:25.238
Which would probably be a hazardous waste
site.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5909-0
00:52:27.158 --> 00:52:30.558
So these transfer stations should not
even accept damage.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5910-0
00:52:30.838 --> 00:52:30.878
A.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5914-0
00:52:30.878 --> 00:52:32.958
Rechargeable batteries OK.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5930-0
00:52:33.278 --> 00:52:37.602
That's where that starts,
and not relying on the container to be
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5930-1
00:52:37.602 --> 00:52:39.398
able to prevent a fire, OK.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5939-0
00:52:39.398 --> 00:52:42.318
So I think there needs to be a little bit
more to the process.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5946-0
00:52:47.558 --> 00:52:49.918
For the record,
your name and organization.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5949-0
00:52:49.998 --> 00:52:52.598
I'm sorry. My name is Bill Dow.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5968-0
00:52:53.398 --> 00:52:59.216
I'm the founder of a startup battery
recycling company here in the state of
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5968-1
00:52:59.216 --> 00:53:02.278
Maine called Battery Recycling Services.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5970-0
00:53:03.718 --> 00:53:03.998
And.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5977-0
00:53:06.118 --> 00:53:07.718
I've been doing this for about two years
now.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5983-0
00:53:09.238 --> 00:53:11.078
In my background,
I actually come from Europe.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/5996-0
00:53:12.678 --> 00:53:16.438
So I know battery recycling from the
European side very well.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6015-0
00:53:17.158 --> 00:53:20.704
And you know I'm, you know,
I'm starting this here in,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6015-1
00:53:20.704 --> 00:53:25.218
in Maine for the past two years,
but specifically focused on consumer
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6015-2
00:53:25.218 --> 00:53:25.798
patterns.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6017-0
00:53:32.288 --> 00:53:32.448
OK.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6018-0
00:53:32.528 --> 00:53:33.248
Thank you.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6042-0
00:53:35.198 --> 00:53:39.610
So I agree with Bill that they have to be
damaged and that's most cases.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6042-1
00:53:39.610 --> 00:53:43.841
But my concern with that is if they
refuse the pickup of the battery,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6042-2
00:53:43.841 --> 00:53:46.078
where's that battery going to end up?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6043-0
00:53:46.078 --> 00:53:47.078
That's right.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6078-0
00:53:47.358 --> 00:53:51.443
My other concern is it may not be damaged
when they receive it,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6078-1
00:53:51.443 --> 00:53:54.699
but when you toss one of these things
into a pile,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6078-2
00:53:54.699 --> 00:53:58.593
it could crack or the weight of you know,
as the pile grows,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6078-3
00:53:58.593 --> 00:54:02.678
something could happen that would be if
they get damaged after.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6083-0
00:54:03.478 --> 00:54:04.958
They're if they're not in something.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6087-0
00:54:05.348 --> 00:54:06.188
Foolproof, right?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6113-0
00:54:06.188 --> 00:54:09.998
Yes, or orderly secure,
but most fires do start from because why
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6113-1
00:54:09.998 --> 00:54:14.688
they start in the in the trash is from
the compacting trucks are being run over
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6113-2
00:54:14.688 --> 00:54:16.388
and that type of thing, yeah.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6125-0
00:54:16.708 --> 00:54:20.788
But I would be concerned of if they
refused.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6136-0
00:54:20.868 --> 00:54:23.343
A battery.
Does that end up being tossed off the
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6136-1
00:54:23.343 --> 00:54:25.868
window after they get?
What does that battery go?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6155-0
00:54:26.898 --> 00:54:31.589
And if it gets tossed in the pile and
gets cracked or damaged from doing that,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6155-1
00:54:31.589 --> 00:54:34.618
we're still.
We're still in the same place, right?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6189-0
00:54:34.938 --> 00:54:40.701
And I guess just to like,
I mean the other kind of damaged battery
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6189-1
00:54:40.701 --> 00:54:47.323
that comes up is is manufacturer, Steve,
a manufacturer's defective battery,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6189-2
00:54:47.323 --> 00:54:51.538
which I believe we we propose would
actually be.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6213-0
00:54:54.288 --> 00:55:00.085
That the manufacturer itself would be
responsible for its its own defective
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6213-1
00:55:00.085 --> 00:55:00.848
batteries.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6230-0
00:55:00.848 --> 00:55:07.615
That wouldn't be part of the program
unless there was a agreement for it to be
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6230-1
00:55:07.615 --> 00:55:10.528
sold and compensation for that so.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6236-0
00:55:12.038 --> 00:55:13.598
Courtney's important to the screen.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6240-0
00:55:13.598 --> 00:55:15.478
Yep, we've got Mark first.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6243-0
00:55:17.238 --> 00:55:17.558
All right, mark.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6251-0
00:55:18.488 --> 00:55:20.208
Yeah, hi, it's mark from Prba.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6268-0
00:55:20.208 --> 00:55:23.947
The rechargeable battery recycling or
excuse me from the rechargeable Battery
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6268-1
00:55:23.947 --> 00:55:26.248
Association looking at two things at once
here.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6290-0
00:55:27.798 --> 00:55:31.325
So these, you know,
waste batteries are very heavily
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6290-1
00:55:31.325 --> 00:55:35.318
controlled according to transportation
guidelines and laws.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6310-0
00:55:35.318 --> 00:55:41.735
So the programs are designed to mitigate
the the opportunities or the chances for
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6310-1
00:55:41.735 --> 00:55:44.318
fire as well as follow fire code.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6315-0
00:55:44.318 --> 00:55:47.518
So that is part of the all applicable.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6329-0
00:55:47.828 --> 00:55:52.708
State and federal laws that apply now
having said that, is it foolproof?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6336-0
00:55:52.708 --> 00:55:55.554
No, I mean,
there's no such thing as foolproof with
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6336-1
00:55:55.554 --> 00:55:55.828
this.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6372-0
00:55:55.828 --> 00:55:58.587
You know,
we try to control it with these programs
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6372-1
00:55:58.587 --> 00:56:01.401
as best as possible,
but nothing is is a guarantee,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6372-2
00:56:01.401 --> 00:56:04.810
but the program is absolutely established
to follow, you know,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6372-3
00:56:04.810 --> 00:56:08.543
fire code guidelines as well as
transportation guidelines to prevent
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6372-4
00:56:08.543 --> 00:56:08.868
fires.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6379-0
00:56:15.088 --> 00:56:17.368
We have Jennifer up next, Jennifer.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6394-0
00:56:19.418 --> 00:56:22.698
Hello Jen Dobbolanio from the Hazardous
Waste management unit.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6407-0
00:56:22.698 --> 00:56:26.658
Again, I wanted to speak briefly to Mr.
Dow's point.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6438-0
00:56:27.498 --> 00:56:33.914
Our unit is also involved with quarterly
reporting directly from businesses and
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6438-1
00:56:33.914 --> 00:56:40.089
transfer stations because any business or
town transfer station that accepts
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6438-2
00:56:40.089 --> 00:56:43.698
universal waste from non household
entities.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6444-0
00:56:44.798 --> 00:56:47.198
They owe quarterly reports to the state.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6455-0
00:56:47.748 --> 00:56:53.348
And in dealing with transfer stations,
especially over the past few years.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6475-0
00:56:54.188 --> 00:57:00.370
The the chronic concern that I've been
hearing over and over again is chronic
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6475-1
00:57:00.370 --> 00:57:02.748
lack of staffing and turnover.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6512-0
00:57:04.638 --> 00:57:09.106
And so I don't have a solution for this,
but I just wanted to put it out there
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6512-1
00:57:09.106 --> 00:57:13.631
that if we're going to make a requirement
that the attendant has to examine and
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6512-2
00:57:13.631 --> 00:57:18.326
inspect the battery before accepting it,
there can be a challenge to that because,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6512-3
00:57:18.326 --> 00:57:19.118
you know many.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6523-0
00:57:19.118 --> 00:57:23.038
Of these universal waste drop off areas
at the transfer station.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6535-0
00:57:24.108 --> 00:57:28.068
Are often not manned because they don't
have enough manpower to do so.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6560-0
00:57:29.558 --> 00:57:34.378
And I know I've dealt with many who are
even overwhelmed at the scale house,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6560-1
00:57:34.378 --> 00:57:36.318
and it's a perennial challenge.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6569-0
00:57:36.318 --> 00:57:39.446
I'm not sure how we're going to meet that,
but I just want to make that a
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6569-1
00:57:39.446 --> 00:57:40.038
consideration.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6576-0
00:58:02.148 --> 00:58:02.748
Isabel.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6585-0
00:58:05.028 --> 00:58:07.628
Hi, my name is Isabel Stevens.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6596-0
00:58:07.628 --> 00:58:09.948
I am with healthy communities of the
capital area.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6618-0
00:58:09.948 --> 00:58:14.024
We're a public health nonprofit serving
Pennsylvania,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6618-1
00:58:14.024 --> 00:58:19.988
so I'm not a battery expert and more to
hear here to share my experience with.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6627-0
00:58:21.518 --> 00:58:24.718
A specific product which is E cigarettes.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6639-0
00:58:26.678 --> 00:58:29.754
And so,
mostly from the perspective of my work
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6639-1
00:58:29.754 --> 00:58:31.718
with schools and young people.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6646-0
00:58:33.398 --> 00:58:34.918
So as a lot of you probably know.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6652-0
00:58:35.508 --> 00:58:38.028
The rise of disposable.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6677-0
00:58:39.518 --> 00:58:45.035
Phybes has been pretty rampant following
the ban of flavored or the flavor ban on
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6677-1
00:58:45.035 --> 00:58:49.678
pod based products like Jewel,
which had the rechargeable batteries.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6705-0
00:58:51.318 --> 00:58:56.748
And so we're hearing from a lot of the
schools that they're collecting either
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6705-1
00:58:56.748 --> 00:58:59.950
through use,
voluntarily giving them vapes or
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6705-2
00:58:59.950 --> 00:59:03.918
confiscation.
They're collecting large numbers of vapes.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6724-0
00:59:04.668 --> 00:59:09.528
And they're feeling like there's no
guidance on what they can do with these
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6724-1
00:59:09.528 --> 00:59:12.598
products.
So they're ending up in the trash and
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6724-2
00:59:12.598 --> 00:59:14.708
things like that. Youth are also.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6745-0
00:59:15.368 --> 00:59:19.697
If they're disposing of them themselves,
either putting them in the trash,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6745-1
00:59:19.697 --> 00:59:23.968
putting them in water or smashing them,
which hearing the concerns about.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6752-0
00:59:25.438 --> 00:59:26.678
Fires from batteries.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6756-0
00:59:26.678 --> 00:59:30.478
It seems like that might not be the best
route for them to go.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6775-0
00:59:33.118 --> 00:59:38.798
So I guess it's more of a a common and
just a question of like what the current.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6781-0
00:59:40.398 --> 00:59:41.478
Conversation is around it.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6789-0
00:59:41.478 --> 00:59:45.198
I know Katie mentioned potentially a
separate stewardess.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6815-0
00:59:45.828 --> 00:59:51.121
Stewardship program for E cigarettes,
which I think seems like the best route
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6815-1
00:59:51.121 --> 00:59:55.668
due to their hazardous waste and plastic
waste components as well.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6832-0
00:59:57.028 --> 01:00:03.668
But I've done some research and the only
model I found is vape aware Colorado.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6845-0
01:00:04.348 --> 01:00:07.994
So at the state level,
program that addresses safe handling in
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6845-1
01:00:07.994 --> 01:00:09.788
our recycling of vape products.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6874-0
01:00:11.318 --> 01:00:16.189
And they recommend it so that people
aren't having to separate the vape into
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6874-1
01:00:16.189 --> 01:00:21.123
its separate components on their own,
and then not being sure what to do with
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6874-2
01:00:21.123 --> 01:00:22.198
those components.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6879-0
01:00:22.518 --> 01:00:25.303
So yeah,
I'd be interested in hearing kind of what
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6879-1
01:00:25.303 --> 01:00:25.958
the current.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6894-0
01:00:26.228 --> 01:00:31.137
Work is from your perspective.
Since I don't know the battery side of
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6894-1
01:00:31.137 --> 01:00:31.908
this story.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6902-0
01:00:35.688 --> 01:00:36.528
Well, I guess so.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6907-0
01:00:36.598 --> 01:00:39.638
The current, I mean the current I guess.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6908-0
01:00:39.638 --> 01:00:40.358
Call it the current.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6910-0
01:00:41.848 --> 01:00:42.048
Standing.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6928-0
01:00:43.808 --> 01:00:49.088
Of vapes and batteries is that there was
LD 1519 that.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6947-0
01:00:51.288 --> 01:00:56.771
Passed through the legislature,
but which was a product stewardship
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6947-1
01:00:56.771 --> 01:01:01.448
program for vape,
these vape devices e-cigarrete devices.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6952-0
01:01:02.968 --> 01:01:04.168
That did not get funded.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6955-0
01:01:05.848 --> 01:01:06.728
The appropriations.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6960-0
01:01:08.308 --> 01:01:09.708
Table but it would.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6972-0
01:01:11.488 --> 01:01:13.688
Get funded at the Appropriations
Committee this year.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6991-0
01:01:13.688 --> 01:01:17.820
But it was tabled for consideration for
next year.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/6991-1
01:01:17.820 --> 01:01:23.248
I'm not sure what will happen with that.
With that with that bill.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7013-0
01:01:24.768 --> 01:01:28.686
If it does make it through and gets
passed,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7013-1
01:01:28.686 --> 01:01:34.208
then we'll have that program to implement.
If it does not go.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7021-0
01:01:34.648 --> 01:01:37.808
If it doesn't get funded, it gets it dies.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7023-0
01:01:38.828 --> 01:01:39.668
Then.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7064-0
01:01:43.688 --> 01:01:48.995
Then the vape that are embedded batteries
that have embedded batteries would be
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7064-1
01:01:48.995 --> 01:01:54.303
part of the evaluation that we mentioned
earlier about products and how we deal
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7064-2
01:01:54.303 --> 01:01:59.544
with embedded batteries and those without
those that have removable batteries.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7064-3
01:01:59.544 --> 01:02:02.728
The batteries themselves would then be
part of.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7075-0
01:02:04.368 --> 01:02:09.688
The whatever battery program we have
developed from this process.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7120-0
01:02:15.998 --> 01:02:21.737
Courtney Hafner with the department's.
I'm also being the tech person today,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7120-1
01:02:21.737 --> 01:02:26.880
but just to add on to that,
this topic is a complex one because it's
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7120-2
01:02:26.880 --> 01:02:32.993
not simply just talking about batteries
and it's talking about embedded batteries
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7120-3
01:02:32.993 --> 01:02:34.558
and also a hazardous.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7126-0
01:02:35.328 --> 01:02:37.168
Substance. So this is going through.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7129-0
01:02:38.928 --> 01:02:39.568
Two different units.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7152-0
01:02:39.918 --> 01:02:45.337
And we'll have to look at this very
carefully before deciding where they
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7152-1
01:02:45.337 --> 01:02:49.198
belong in these proxy programs or in
existing ones.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7158-0
01:02:53.508 --> 01:02:55.348
Thank you both for sharing that.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7177-0
01:02:55.348 --> 01:03:00.890
I'm just curious as schools are coming to
me for advice on what to do with products
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7177-1
01:03:00.890 --> 01:03:01.748
at this time.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7181-0
01:03:01.748 --> 01:03:03.108
Is there a best practice?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7186-0
01:03:04.648 --> 01:03:06.128
Until something better comes along.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7190-0
01:03:07.418 --> 01:03:08.098
Yeah, I guess.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7196-0
01:03:08.098 --> 01:03:12.347
Why?
Why don't you reach out to us off the
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7196-1
01:03:12.347 --> 01:03:13.138
meeting?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7214-0
01:03:14.888 --> 01:03:19.805
And we'll provide you with kind of what
we what we're looking at right now as
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7214-1
01:03:19.805 --> 01:03:20.688
best practice.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7219-0
01:03:24.028 --> 01:03:25.028
All right, I'll do that.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7220-0
01:03:25.028 --> 01:03:25.628
I appreciate it.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7221-0
01:03:26.398 --> 01:03:26.918
All right.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7222-0
01:03:33.828 --> 01:03:34.188
OK.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7226-0
01:03:38.228 --> 01:03:39.588
Don't see any hands over here.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7228-0
01:03:39.588 --> 01:03:40.628
No hands there.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7230-0
01:03:42.288 --> 01:03:42.528
Anyone.
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01:03:45.968 --> 01:03:47.448
Any other comments?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7238-0
01:03:49.478 --> 01:03:51.638
Questions. Suggestions.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7240-0
01:03:57.548 --> 01:03:58.228
Internally.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7256-0
01:03:59.888 --> 01:04:03.353
No,
I I I I echo what Redwood said in that we
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7256-1
01:04:03.353 --> 01:04:06.968
you know this be open to independent
recyclers.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7264-0
01:04:08.648 --> 01:04:11.008
And for profit, not just nonprofit.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7267-0
01:04:15.028 --> 01:04:15.308
I know.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7291-0
01:04:15.308 --> 01:04:19.686
I actually had a clarifying 'cause I know
we've talked about that.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7291-1
01:04:19.686 --> 01:04:23.868
This is one of many drafts that we're
gonna have to go through.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7292-0
01:04:23.988 --> 01:04:25.308
Do we know yet?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7310-0
01:04:25.308 --> 01:04:32.378
A year that we're gonna like,
bring this up to legislation to be like
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7310-1
01:04:32.378 --> 01:04:33.388
this year.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7317-0
01:04:33.788 --> 01:04:39.788
So like we were like 25 or yeah so.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7324-0
01:04:39.788 --> 01:04:43.128
So just as a so to go over the process
again.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7341-0
01:04:43.638 --> 01:04:49.238
In our in our product stewardship report
for January of 25,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7341-1
01:04:49.238 --> 01:04:51.478
we identified batteries.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7358-0
01:04:53.008 --> 01:04:59.421
As a product that should be evaluated to
have its program updated because
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7358-1
01:04:59.421 --> 01:05:00.288
currently.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7362-0
01:05:02.008 --> 01:05:03.008
The program we.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7375-0
01:05:05.088 --> 01:05:08.502
Have limits is limited,
legislatively limited by the chemistry
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7375-1
01:05:08.502 --> 01:05:10.128
and by rechargeable batteries.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7388-0
01:05:11.258 --> 01:05:15.098
Which is is severely out of date.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7399-0
01:05:16.298 --> 01:05:21.182
And so that's kind of what started us
down this road of of trying to update
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7399-1
01:05:21.182 --> 01:05:22.018
that program.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7422-0
01:05:24.048 --> 01:05:31.752
And then I can't remember the LD number,
but there was a there was a a bill put in
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7422-1
01:05:31.752 --> 01:05:33.608
that did two things.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7425-0
01:05:35.288 --> 01:05:35.648
It banned.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7432-0
01:05:39.288 --> 01:05:41.128
Disposable vaping devices.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7434-0
01:05:42.438 --> 01:05:43.198
And.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7440-0
01:05:44.688 --> 01:05:46.528
Asked us to look into.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7461-0
01:05:48.128 --> 01:05:53.326
Updating the battery stewardship program
and how vait products might fit into that
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7461-1
01:05:53.326 --> 01:05:54.328
type of program.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7492-0
01:05:54.648 --> 01:06:01.249
So we are kind of doing because of the we
already and so we're doing kind of that
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7492-1
01:06:01.249 --> 01:06:07.448
what that bill is required in this in
what we're putting together right now.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7497-0
01:06:07.488 --> 01:06:10.128
So our goal here is to try and develop.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7500-0
01:06:10.478 --> 01:06:12.638
Language for.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7518-0
01:06:14.488 --> 01:06:22.041
Inclusion in the product stewardship
report that'll be published in January of
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7518-1
01:06:22.041 --> 01:06:22.328
26.
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01:06:23.968 --> 01:06:29.541
Will include language from what we've
heard from these meetings for updating
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7536-1
01:06:29.541 --> 01:06:31.568
our current battery program.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7550-0
01:06:33.248 --> 01:06:39.528
And as a reminder,
the way that process works is we would.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7555-0
01:06:40.558 --> 01:06:42.718
We we put, we publish the.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7564-0
01:06:44.248 --> 01:06:47.008
Product stewardship report in January and
it's actually.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7602-0
01:06:48.688 --> 01:06:52.476
And then it's,
it's out for public comment for a for a
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7602-1
01:06:52.476 --> 01:06:57.711
month's period of time during which
anyone can provide comments to anything
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7602-2
01:06:57.711 --> 01:07:01.362
in the report.
And we take those comments and attach
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7602-3
01:07:01.362 --> 01:07:06.528
them to the report as the final report
that we present to the main legisl.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7612-0
01:07:07.208 --> 01:07:11.008
And then they have the option to act upon
that report.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7616-0
01:07:11.358 --> 01:07:14.478
For and, I believe the.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7671-0
01:07:16.008 --> 01:07:21.611
Legislation you're talking about is LD754
for the band of single use disposable
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7671-1
01:07:21.611 --> 01:07:26.584
vapes and the EPR plan for batteries and
electronic waste and LD 1519,
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7671-2
01:07:26.584 --> 01:07:32.117
which focuses on requiring a stewardship
program for end of life management of
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7671-3
01:07:32.117 --> 01:07:33.168
these products.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7679-0
01:07:33.168 --> 01:07:36.088
Right,
15/19 was the one I had mentioned that.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7690-0
01:07:37.768 --> 01:07:40.888
Did pass and and did not get funded on
the appropriations.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7700-0
01:07:42.078 --> 01:07:46.278
What's the forecast? 750-4754 was tabled.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7721-0
01:07:48.768 --> 01:07:54.051
My understanding was tabled,
but we we basically said we were going to
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7721-1
01:07:54.051 --> 01:07:58.888
include the what the sponsor had wanted
in what we're doing now.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7757-0
01:08:05.518 --> 01:08:10.218
I think it's important to also,
as you look at things like this to just
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7757-1
01:08:10.218 --> 01:08:15.309
look outside the box when it comes to
collection in infrastructure to some of
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7757-2
01:08:15.309 --> 01:08:20.662
the programs that have successfully over
the last few years been implemented that
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7757-3
01:08:20.662 --> 01:08:23.208
these folks are doing a great job when.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7784-0
01:08:23.208 --> 01:08:27.572
It comes to radius in you know area and
logistics like I forget the name of them
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7784-1
01:08:27.572 --> 01:08:29.728
now,
but folks that are doing the close
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7784-2
01:08:29.728 --> 01:08:31.398
collection that have put stuff.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7797-0
01:08:32.168 --> 01:08:34.530
All over,
they usually had all the conferences and
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7797-1
01:08:34.530 --> 01:08:36.568
they're redoing the clothes or making
rags.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7813-0
01:08:37.558 --> 01:08:41.985
Oh, OK. But also, you know, like, like,
these folks are collecting at all the
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7813-1
01:08:41.985 --> 01:08:44.198
transfer stations and also paying care.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7850-0
01:08:44.318 --> 01:08:49.258
Paying care does it very successful job
at when it comes to logistics and and and
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7850-1
01:08:49.258 --> 01:08:53.536
collection like those folks.
These guys obviously are paying attention
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7850-2
01:08:53.536 --> 01:08:57.512
is, but those folks might not.
But once this is out there they're
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7850-3
01:08:57.512 --> 01:09:01.248
they're very good at at they've been very
successful at what?
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7860-0
01:09:01.248 --> 01:09:05.358
You know on on working radius areas and
collection points.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7886-0
01:09:05.798 --> 01:09:10.538
If I can't add to that real quick,
the only thing we are concerned about is
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7886-1
01:09:10.538 --> 01:09:13.158
with retailers and certain drop off sites.
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7907-0
01:09:13.198 --> 01:09:16.618
That is ideal,
but with transfer stations we do have to
80d95621-4cae-4321-98de-2cd3b5e2ec0d/7907-1
01:09:16.618 --> 01:09:21.200
be careful because just because my leg I
might be 10 miles from my nearest
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01:09:21.200 --> 01:09:22.238
transfer station.
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01:09:22.238 --> 01:09:26.798
But if it's not located technically in my
town, then I can't really use that.
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01:09:26.798 --> 01:09:29.398
So we are thinking about that, right?
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01:09:29.398 --> 01:09:30.478
Yeah. We then actually.
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01:09:31.408 --> 01:09:34.468
The the you'll see the convenience.
I call it a convenience standard,
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01:09:34.468 --> 01:09:35.168
the convenience.
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01:09:36.078 --> 01:09:38.398
Goal kind of like tries to.
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01:09:39.518 --> 01:09:44.156
Put in in in a basic.
It kind of like builds on on that
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01:09:44.156 --> 01:09:50.699
standard products stewardship goal of 95%
of the population within 15 minutes.
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01:09:50.699 --> 01:09:56.828
And then we try to include like in
addition to that transfer stations and
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01:09:56.828 --> 01:10:00.638
knowing and as Courtney said because I
might.
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01:10:00.638 --> 01:10:03.358
Not be able to use the transfer station,
you know.
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01:10:04.728 --> 01:10:08.508
Then other potential avenues for
collection, such as retailers or a town,
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01:10:08.508 --> 01:10:08.968
may have.
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01:10:09.678 --> 01:10:13.960
May wish to have a collection point
someplace other than the transfer station.
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01:10:13.960 --> 01:10:18.133
If they don't have a transfer station.
I know there was one comment somebody
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01:10:18.133 --> 01:10:22.523
said that you know a fire station might
make an appropriate appropriate spot for
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01:10:22.523 --> 01:10:23.878
a battery location point.
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01:10:23.878 --> 01:10:28.531
So that's actually, I mean,
so I'll be honest, I'll just say any,
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01:10:28.531 --> 01:10:33.818
if people can look at what we've put out
there and if they have, you know,
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01:10:33.818 --> 01:10:35.158
comments good, bad.
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01:10:36.008 --> 01:10:38.368
Ugly regarding what we've proposed.
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01:10:39.758 --> 01:10:42.675
You know,
please feel free to let us know how you
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01:10:42.675 --> 01:10:43.958
your comments on that.
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01:10:45.628 --> 01:10:47.748
Mark has his hand up Mark.
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01:10:48.728 --> 01:10:50.208
Hey Brian. Thanks.
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01:10:50.248 --> 01:10:52.704
So yeah,
Mark Draper on the solid waste director
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01:10:52.704 --> 01:10:54.208
for Aroostook Waste Solutions.
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01:10:54.248 --> 01:10:57.928
We run a landfill and a transfer station
in Aroostook County.
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01:10:57.928 --> 01:11:02.010
So you just touched on,
I guess what I was going to say.
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01:11:02.010 --> 01:11:06.235
One is you know,
am happy to see that convenience standard
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01:11:06.235 --> 01:11:10.532
95% within 15 miles.
And I think I was the one maybe others
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01:11:10.532 --> 01:11:16.118
have suggested using fire stations if
possible, but that's obviously another.
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01:11:16.878 --> 01:11:17.518
Whole group of entities.
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01:11:18.028 --> 01:11:20.188
That need to be involved to make that
happen.
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01:11:21.678 --> 01:11:26.358
The other thing I just wanted to touch on
real quick was I am happy to see that you
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01:11:26.358 --> 01:11:28.643
know,
we're gonna try to move forward as
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01:11:28.643 --> 01:11:32.989
quickly as we can with as many batteries
as possible and looking at obviously
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01:11:32.989 --> 01:11:35.998
embedded batteries,
which is gonna be a problem, but.
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01:11:35.998 --> 01:11:37.518
It's gonna take longer to solve.
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01:11:37.998 --> 01:11:41.954
I like the approach that the department
took to hopefully put something in the
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01:11:41.954 --> 01:11:44.958
legislation that will lead to that
happening down the line.
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01:11:46.638 --> 01:11:47.918
The only other couple things is.
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01:11:48.108 --> 01:11:52.825
As I see, you know, July 2027,
obviously I realize that things take time
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01:11:52.825 --> 01:11:57.542
to get through the legislative and
rulemaking process, but the you know,
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01:11:57.542 --> 01:12:02.388
as as Mike and others can probably attest,
this is a problem for us today.
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01:12:02.468 --> 01:12:06.683
And I I realize it's going to take time,
but in any opportunity to make it as
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01:12:06.683 --> 01:12:09.548
quick as possible,
we would certainly appreciate it.
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01:12:10.148 --> 01:12:13.308
And I did my last question.
I think you just answered it, Brian is.
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01:12:14.278 --> 01:12:14.638
So I just.
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01:12:14.638 --> 01:12:15.998
I just got a chance to look at this.
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01:12:15.998 --> 01:12:18.478
Are you are the department going to take
written comments?
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01:12:19.188 --> 01:12:22.628
On this draft as well,
for some period of time.
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01:12:22.908 --> 01:12:25.948
Yes, yes, we will.
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01:12:24.198 --> 01:12:24.358
OK.
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01:12:25.918 --> 01:12:26.878
Is there a deadline or?
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01:12:25.988 --> 01:12:26.428
I'd like.
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01:12:28.468 --> 01:12:30.988
I'd like to say two weeks.
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01:12:31.508 --> 01:12:31.868
OK.
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01:12:32.438 --> 01:12:37.531
I'll reiterate this in an e-mail that I'm
going to send after the transcript is
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01:12:37.531 --> 01:12:41.478
available for viewing,
and I'll reiterate all these timelines
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01:12:41.478 --> 01:12:44.598
for comments for the DEP battery, e-mail,
right.
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01:12:44.958 --> 01:12:46.318
Yeah. I mean, we'd like to.
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01:12:46.558 --> 01:12:49.959
Just because of the calendar coming up,
you know if we need to get something into
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01:12:49.959 --> 01:12:52.198
the report,
I need to kind of have the report itself.
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01:12:52.548 --> 01:12:55.028
Wrapped up in December.
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01:12:56.758 --> 01:12:57.878
And December's not that far away.
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01:12:57.878 --> 01:13:01.478
And then two weeks the same time EPR is
due to.
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01:13:03.238 --> 01:13:04.598
Probably, yeah.
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01:13:04.598 --> 01:13:05.278
Yeah, I don't know.
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01:13:05.318 --> 01:13:09.074
I think no. I think well,
we only have a month left to get
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01:13:09.074 --> 01:13:12.385
everything done, but APR is actually,
I mean, yeah,
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01:13:12.385 --> 01:13:17.096
so this is well then we're dropping
bodily redemption as well in a couple
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01:13:17.096 --> 01:13:17.478
weeks.
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01:13:17.478 --> 01:13:20.598
So yeah, we've got a bunch of, yeah,
stuff up there.
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01:13:21.708 --> 01:13:22.668
Thank. Thank you for that.
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01:13:23.368 --> 01:13:24.288
Sure, mark. Thanks.
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01:13:29.828 --> 01:13:30.388
So.
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Anything else from in the room?
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01:13:35.118 --> 01:13:36.398
I'm on the tail end of this thing.
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01:13:36.398 --> 01:13:41.918
I didn't attend the August 12th meeting,
so I'm kind of playing catch up right now.
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01:13:41.918 --> 01:13:44.628
Sure.
We do have both a transcript and the
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01:13:44.628 --> 01:13:49.795
meeting itself available on our website
if anybody wants to refresh themselves to
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01:13:49.795 --> 01:13:51.118
the first one, great.
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01:13:51.118 --> 01:13:52.318
Yeah. Welcome both.
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01:13:53.918 --> 01:13:54.238
It'll be great.
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01:13:55.918 --> 01:14:00.668
But yeah, I am gonna reiterate, you know,
we're we are definitely keeping an open
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01:14:00.668 --> 01:14:00.958
mind.
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01:14:01.588 --> 01:14:03.708
You want to hear what people have to say.
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01:14:05.438 --> 01:14:09.318
As they always say,
the devil is in the details. So.
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01:14:10.958 --> 01:14:14.398
If if if you have comments and as
detailed as possible regarding.
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01:14:16.998 --> 01:14:22.137
These issues that would be great.
I know our biggest comments that we've
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01:14:22.137 --> 01:14:26.572
gotten that we are looking at really
carefully is convenience,
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01:14:26.572 --> 01:14:29.318
trying to make this free to the public.
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01:14:30.138 --> 01:14:36.168
And keeping a special eye out for Evie
and embedded batteries because they are
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01:14:36.168 --> 01:14:40.138
going to be their own beast and we
understand that.
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01:14:40.138 --> 01:14:42.405
Yeah,
I mean some ways we're kind of with
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01:14:42.405 --> 01:14:45.915
attacking what I'm what I'm referring to
is the loose batteries,
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01:14:45.915 --> 01:14:48.938
the removable rechargeables,
and the primary batteries.
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01:14:48.978 --> 01:14:55.058
It's somewhat we're gonna try and make go
after the low hanging fruit first.
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01:14:55.758 --> 01:14:58.878
And and then have the have the.
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01:14:59.668 --> 01:15:01.828
Language in the in the bill.
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01:15:04.428 --> 01:15:05.508
Go towards.
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01:15:07.278 --> 01:15:10.478
Moving us towards including those other
more troublesome items.
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01:15:10.478 --> 01:15:14.459
But I do want to get them involved
included,
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01:15:14.459 --> 01:15:19.678
so again any kind of any comments towards
that as well so.
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01:15:25.178 --> 01:15:26.778
We have got Ashley Ashley.
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01:15:28.698 --> 01:15:31.458
I love the way you said that.
I feel like on a stage.
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01:15:33.118 --> 01:15:38.272
One comment on the EV batteries,
so I I appreciate that you all are are
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01:15:38.272 --> 01:15:44.143
coming to this in a comprehensive manner
and and and really trying to do right by
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01:15:44.143 --> 01:15:47.078
safety as you should as the top priority.
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01:15:47.478 --> 01:15:52.015
One comment on EV batteries is that,
as you may already know,
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01:15:52.015 --> 01:15:57.358
and apologies if I said this in the first
meeting, but EV batteries are.
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01:15:58.068 --> 01:16:02.715
Are very different from small and mid
format batteries, both in.
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01:16:02.715 --> 01:16:08.148
Obviously their size and their weight,
but their recycling streams as well.
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01:16:08.748 --> 01:16:12.281
EV batteries are not, you know,
a consumer isn't just dropping off an EV
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01:16:12.281 --> 01:16:14.508
battery on the side of the road,
necessarily.
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01:16:14.508 --> 01:16:16.148
They weigh hundreds of pounds.
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01:16:16.148 --> 01:16:20.677
It takes a trained professional to remove
an EV battery from the the bottom of a
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01:16:20.677 --> 01:16:24.256
vehicle, and they're handled,
handled by licensed professionals
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01:16:24.256 --> 01:16:26.828
throughout their lifetime as they go
through.
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01:16:27.228 --> 01:16:30.956
The auto recycling process and then
downstream to battery recyclers such as
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01:16:30.956 --> 01:16:31.348
Redwood.
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01:16:31.348 --> 01:16:34.908
So we work very closely on EV battery
recycling policy.
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01:16:34.908 --> 01:16:38.469
We worked very closely in in California
and New Jersey,
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01:16:38.469 --> 01:16:43.428
which is the only state in the country
that has an EV battery management law.
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01:16:43.548 --> 01:16:47.808
So happy anytime to give some more
information on that and some of the
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01:16:47.808 --> 01:16:52.188
lessons learned and best practices.
But just wanting to make sure you're
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clear that a battery management recycling
program for consumer batteries.
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01:16:57.308 --> 01:17:01.274
In our opinion,
should be much different than a recycling
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01:17:01.274 --> 01:17:03.668
law for electric vehicle batteries.
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01:17:04.258 --> 01:17:06.898
Right. And I think I'll throw on that too.
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01:17:07.458 --> 01:17:12.818
We mentioned in the straw man household
power batteries.
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01:17:12.818 --> 01:17:16.909
I'm not that up to date,
but I do believe that's becoming a thing
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01:17:16.909 --> 01:17:19.698
now or instead of people,
whether they have.
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01:17:22.518 --> 01:17:24.158
A solar solar array.
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01:17:24.158 --> 01:17:28.278
Then they'll have a storage battery,
or even my understanding now is that.
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01:17:30.998 --> 01:17:33.238
That residents, instead of getting.
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01:17:33.668 --> 01:17:38.826
A generator system will have a battery
storage system that can power their
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01:17:38.826 --> 01:17:41.508
household for a couple of hours or not.
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01:17:41.508 --> 01:17:43.948
Let's say Rob can tell us for a couple
days.
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01:17:43.948 --> 01:17:46.961
And so we do, yeah,
believe that those are kind of, yeah,
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01:17:46.961 --> 01:17:48.468
that is a bit of a different.
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01:17:50.038 --> 01:17:55.363
Beast, as opposed to consumer batteries.
But that being said,
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01:17:55.363 --> 01:18:01.118
I will say I have seen YouTube videos
that show you how to how to.
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01:18:02.718 --> 01:18:04.318
How to replace your battery your
batteries?
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01:18:04.588 --> 01:18:05.148
In a Prius.
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01:18:07.278 --> 01:18:11.952
Right. And you know,
and we do know too that in terms of like
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the hustle power, you know, hustle, power,
batteries,
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01:18:16.023 --> 01:18:20.772
we wanna make sure that there is some
type of system in place.
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01:18:20.772 --> 01:18:24.466
So that over the course of years that
batteries,
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01:18:24.466 --> 01:18:26.878
those type of batteries are act.
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01:18:27.278 --> 01:18:31.838
Dealt with and recycled as opposed to
just constantly get.
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01:18:32.838 --> 01:18:33.958
Stockpiled.
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01:18:34.388 --> 01:18:37.508
In someone's house,
when they get a new one, so.
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01:18:39.158 --> 01:18:41.798
But yeah,
so that's kind of the way we're thinking.
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01:18:44.708 --> 01:18:45.348
Thank you.
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01:18:44.858 --> 01:18:48.298
No YouTube tutorials for transfer
stations.
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01:18:49.598 --> 01:18:52.539
And and really quickly too,
just so you know,
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01:18:49.678 --> 01:18:49.798
Wow.
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01:18:52.539 --> 01:18:57.591
there's there is some differences between
a hybrid battery and a fully plug in
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01:18:57.591 --> 01:18:58.678
electric vehicle.
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01:18:58.678 --> 01:19:01.239
There can be differences in the size of
the battery,
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01:19:01.239 --> 01:19:04.283
so not I'm not surprised to hear that
about the Prius comment,
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01:19:04.283 --> 01:19:08.100
but there there are much larger batteries
that are a much more difficult for a
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01:19:08.100 --> 01:19:10.758
consumer unless they had specialty
professional tools.
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01:19:10.758 --> 01:19:13.238
But thank you for your response.
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01:19:13.688 --> 01:19:17.619
Right.
I mean I guess that does show the how the
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01:19:17.619 --> 01:19:23.716
devil is in the details and you know we
need if if if we don't make this as
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01:19:23.716 --> 01:19:28.048
comprehensive as possible,
then there will always be.
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01:19:29.508 --> 01:19:30.708
Loopholes that.
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01:19:33.838 --> 01:19:34.598
That for.
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01:19:34.758 --> 01:19:39.747
For situations that that aren't covered
and we wanna try and make this as
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01:19:39.747 --> 01:19:43.860
comprehensive as possible,
not necessarily have a system for
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01:19:43.860 --> 01:19:47.501
everything,
but have everything addressed in a manner
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01:19:47.501 --> 01:19:47.838
that.
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Will eventually get to that point.
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01:19:51.878 --> 01:19:52.958
Absolutely, yeah.
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01:19:52.998 --> 01:19:56.776
I mean, like I said,
we've we've got a number of product
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01:19:56.776 --> 01:19:59.958
stewardship programs and we bottle
redemptions.
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01:20:00.268 --> 01:20:04.581
The perfect example devils in details.
You would think that would be pretty
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01:20:04.581 --> 01:20:06.908
simple, but it's quite complicated, yeah.
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01:20:10.428 --> 01:20:15.628
Again, and then that reiterates my,
we are welcome, any and all comments.
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01:20:23.388 --> 01:20:24.828
So yeah, so I guess so.
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Courtney, you'll,
I'm assuming everybody here in the
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01:20:29.118 --> 01:20:35.028
meeting has has responded to us and we
have their emails 'cause we will.
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01:20:35.308 --> 01:20:39.670
We've reached a point where we're not
going to be sending out mass newsletters
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01:20:39.670 --> 01:20:42.320
to everyone.
We're just going to be sending out
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01:20:42.320 --> 01:20:46.461
targeted information to those who sent us
their emails and told us they're
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01:20:46.461 --> 01:20:47.068
interested.
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01:20:48.058 --> 01:20:54.738
So we'll follow up with a link to the
transcripts and the meeting.
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The due date for the comments due date
for the comments.
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And.
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And if anybody else thinks of anything
within the next day, they'd wanna they.
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01:21:06.388 --> 01:21:10.828
They'd want information on. What's that?
One will try to include that as well.
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01:21:13.188 --> 01:21:16.628
If we have questions, can we contact you?
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01:21:17.218 --> 01:21:20.698
Yes, yeah. If you can use the DEP battery.
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01:21:20.698 --> 01:21:24.205
Yeah, e-mail like.
Please send all your questions there just
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01:21:24.205 --> 01:21:26.218
so we can have everything compiled.
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01:21:26.258 --> 01:21:27.498
OK, nice and neat. Yeah.
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01:21:29.028 --> 01:21:32.596
Just 'cause I know the cat is not
available. Jennifer,
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01:21:32.596 --> 01:21:37.268
I can give you Ashley's e-mail after this.
Just so you two can connect.
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01:21:38.868 --> 01:21:39.028
Yeah.
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01:21:41.938 --> 01:21:45.658
And I wrote down Isabella's so we should
be good. Oh, great. Thank you.
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01:21:47.308 --> 01:21:47.948
All right.
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01:21:47.948 --> 01:21:50.148
Well, I guess that will wrap us up.
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I appreciate everyone's participation.
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01:21:57.428 --> 01:21:58.108
Thank you.
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01:21:58.928 --> 01:21:59.608
Thank you.
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01:21:59.068 --> 01:21:59.668
Thank you.
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01:21:59.828 --> 01:22:00.788
Thank you.
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01:22:00.908 --> 01:22:01.548
Thank you.
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Thank you.